Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Hi, What sort of compression ratio do you get? Sigbjorn On Wed, August 18, 2010 12:59, Hans Foertsch wrote: Hello, we use ZFS on Solaris 10u8 as a backup to disk solution with EMC Networker. We use the standard recordsize 128k and zfs compression. Dedup we can't use, because of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Wow, not bad! What is your CPU penalty for enabling compression? Sigbjorn On Wed, August 18, 2010 14:11, Paul Kraus wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we

[zfs-discuss] (preview) Whitepaper - ZFS Pools Explained - feedback welcome

2010-08-25 Thread StorageConcepts
Hello list, while following this list for more then 1 year, I feel that this list was a great way to get insights into ZFS. Thank you all for contributing. Over the last month's I was writing a little whitepaper trying to consolidate the knowledge collected here. It has now reached a beta

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Sigbjorn Lie sigbj...@nixtra.com wrote: Wow, not bad! What is your CPU penalty for enabling compression? Not noticeable on the server side. The NBU servers are M4000 with 4 dual core CPUs, so we have (effectively) 16 CPUs and 16 GB of RAM. The load does climb

[zfs-discuss] System hangs during zfs send

2010-08-25 Thread Bryan Leaman
Hi, I've been following these forums for a long time but this is my first post. I'm looking for some advice on debugging an issue. I've been looking at all the bug reports and updates though b146 but I can't find a good match. I tried the fix for 6937998 but it didn't help. Running Nexenta

Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs during zfs send

2010-08-25 Thread David Blasingame Oracle
What does ::zio_state show? Dave On 08/25/10 07:41, Bryan Leaman wrote: Hi, I've been following these forums for a long time but this is my first post. I'm looking for some advice on debugging an issue. I've been looking at all the bug reports and updates though b146 but I can't find a

Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs during zfs send

2010-08-25 Thread Bryan Leaman
More info: ::zio_state ADDRESS TYPE STAGEWAITER ff02cf248c88 NULL OPEN - ff02e3dec348 NULL OPEN - ff02e3e6d6a0 NULL OPEN - --

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel Whitener
Sigbjorn Stop! Don't do it... it's a waste of time. We tried exactly what you're thinking of... we bought two Sun/Oracle 7000 series storage units with 20TB of ZFS storage each planning to use them as a backup target for Networker. We ran into several issues eventually gave up the ZFS networker

[zfs-discuss] Cloud Storage

2010-08-25 Thread J.P. King
This is slightly off topic, so I apologise in advance. I'm investigating the option of offering private cloud storage. I've found many things which offer features that I want, but nothing that seems to glue them all together into a useful whole. Thus I would like to pick your collective

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cloud Storage

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
IMHO, may be take look the ZFS appliance (7000 storage) from oracle it provide GUI for Dtrace based Analytics and WGUI management. It support 1/2 PB now and will be support much more in near future. http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/039224.pdf it support local cluster and

Re: [zfs-discuss] shrink zpool

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
not possible now On 8/25/2010 2:34 PM, Mike DeMarco wrote: Is it currently or near future possible to shrink a zpool remove a disk attachment: laotsao.vcf___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] SCSI write retry errors on ZIL SSD drives...

2010-08-25 Thread Andreas Grüninger
Ray Supermicro does not support the use of SSDs behind an expander. You must put the SSD in the head or use an interposer card see here: http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/standard_product_ics/sas_sata_protocol_bridge/lsiss9252/index.html Supermicro offers an interposer card too:

[zfs-discuss] slog and TRIM support

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Rossing
I'm trying to pick between an Intel X25-M or Intel X25-E for a slog device. At some point in the future, TRIM support will become available http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/onnv-notify/2010-July/012674.html. The X25-M support TRIM while X25-E don't support trim. Does TRIM support

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog and TRIM support

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
IMHO, U want -E for ZIL and -M for L2ARC On 8/25/2010 2:44 PM, Karl Rossing wrote: I'm trying to pick between an Intel X25-M or Intel X25-E for a slog device. At some point in the future, TRIM support will become available

Re: [zfs-discuss] SCSI write retry errors on ZIL SSD drives...

2010-08-25 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:47:38AM -0700, Andreas Grüninger wrote: Ray Supermicro does not support the use of SSDs behind an expander. You must put the SSD in the head or use an interposer card see here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] (preview) Whitepaper - ZFS Pools Explained - feedback welcome

2010-08-25 Thread F. Wessels
Although it's bit much Nexenta oriented, command wise. It's a nice introduction. I did found one thing, page 28 about the zil. There's no zil device, the zil can be written to an optional slog device. And the last line first paragraph, If you can, use memory based SSD devices. At least change

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedup - Does on imply sha256?

2010-08-25 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Peter Taps ptr...@yahoo.com wrote: Essentially, on is just a pseudonym for sha256 and verify is just a pseudonym for sha256,verify. Can someone please confirm if this is true? When dedup was initially announced, dedup=on was fletcher4. There was a problem

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread Dr. Martin Mundschenk
Hi! I'm running a OSOL box for quite a while and I think ZFS is an amazing filesystem. As a computer I use a Apple MacMini with USB and FireWire devices attached. Unfortunately the USB and sometimes the FW devices just die, causing the whole system to stall, forcing me to do a hard reboot. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Dr. Martin Mundschenk m.mundsch...@me.com wrote: Well, I wonder what are the components to build a stable system without having an enterprise solution: eSATA, USB, FireWire, FibreChannel? I wouldn't consider anything except FC or SAS for a true enterprise

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao
sas-2 with 7200 rpm sas 1tb ot 2tb hdd --- Original message --- From: Dr. Martin Mundschenk m.mundsch...@me.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: 25.8.'10, 15:29 Hi! I'm running a OSOL box for quite a while and I think ZFS is an amazing filesystem. As a computer I use a Apple

Re: [zfs-discuss] (preview) Whitepaper - ZFS Pools Explained - feedback welcome

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
dtrace is DTrace On 8/25/2010 3:27 PM, F. Wessels wrote: Although it's bit much Nexenta oriented, command wise. It's a nice introduction. I did found one thing, page 28 about the zil. There's no zil device, the zil can be written to an optional slog device. And the last line first paragraph,

Re: [zfs-discuss] SCSI write retry errors on ZIL SSD drives...

2010-08-25 Thread Andreas Grüninger
This was the information I got from the distributor but this faq is newer. Anyway you have still the problems. When we installed the Intel-X25 we had also problems with timeout. We replaced the original SUN StorageTek SAS HBA (LSI based, 1068E, newest firmware) with an original SUN StorageTek

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedup - Does on imply sha256?

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Taps
Thank you all for your help. It appears it is better to use on instead of sha256. This way, you are letting zfs decide the best option. Regards, Peter -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Halcyon ZFS and system monitoring software for OpenSolaris (beta)

2010-08-25 Thread Mike Kirk
Update: version 3.2.5 out now, with changes to better support snv_134: http://forums.halcyoninc.com/showthread.php?t=368 If you've downloaded v3.2.4 and are on 09/06, there is no reason to upgrade. Regards, mike.k...@halcyoninc.com -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs during zfs send

2010-08-25 Thread Bryan Leaman
So I don't know if I'm on the right track, but I've been looking at the threadlist and findstack output from above, specifically this thread which seems to be what zpool-syspool is stuck on: 0xff000fa05c60::findstack -v stack pointer for thread ff000fa05c60: ff000fa05860 [

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
I'm currently using SXCE with eSATA (with an LSI controller) and SAS disks in my home boxes and they run just fine. The only glitch I had after LU-upgrading to the latest release is eSATA disk not spinning down any longer when idle. I export file systems with NFS to my Macs: beware that Mac OS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Dr. Martin Mundschenk m.mundsch...@me.com wrote: I'm running a OSOL box for quite a while and I think ZFS is an amazing filesystem. As a computer I use a Apple MacMini with USB and FireWire devices attached. Unfortunately the USB and sometimes the FW devices

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog and TRIM support [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-08-25 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:54:42PM -0400, LaoTsao ?? wrote: IMHO, U want -E for ZIL and -M for L2ARC Why ? -Alex IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog and TRIM support [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-08-25 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
-M has larger capacity and L2ARC is mostly for read and not much write and U also need memory for ARC L2ARC should be the sze of Ur working dataset ZIL is mostly for write and U want SSD for better write and longer life and ZIl may be =1/2 phy memory regards On 8/25/2010 9:18 PM,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS offline ZIL corruption not detected

2010-08-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Neil Perrin This is a consequence of the design for performance of the ZIL code. Intent log blocks are dynamically allocated and chained together. When reading the intent log we read each

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Storage server hardwae

2010-08-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Martin Mundschenk devices attached. Unfortunately the USB and sometimes the FW devices just die, causing the whole system to stall, forcing me to do a hard reboot. Well, I wonder what

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS offline ZIL corruption not detected

2010-08-25 Thread Neil Perrin
On 08/25/10 20:33, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Neil Perrin This is a consequence of the design for performance of the ZIL code. Intent log blocks are dynamically allocated and chained together.

Re: [zfs-discuss] (preview) Whitepaper - ZFS Pools Explained - feedback welcome

2010-08-25 Thread StorageConcepts
Thanks for the feedback, the idea of it is to give people new to ZFS a understanding of the terms and mode of operations to avoid common problems (wide stripe pools etc.). Also agreed that it is a little NexentaStor tweaked :) I think I have to rework the zil section anyhow because of