Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks
are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs
variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because
the working original DVD support
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling:
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks
are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs
I noticed there is an alternative version of webalizer in Portage
called webalizer-xtended and also webalizer-stonesteps in the
wagnerflo overlay. Has anyone tried either of these?
http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/index.html
http://www.stonesteps.ca/projects/webalizer/
- Grant
1998 (10 years ago)
cdrecod addded Blu Ray support in summer 2007.
I know that cdrecord is on portage, but I don't know where.
Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks
are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs
variants and they all have
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks
are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs
variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support
=== On Wed, 08/12, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
start() {
su - user -c /path/to/program/binary
}
===
That works as long as the binary forks and runs as a daemon. If not,
you will probably have to use the start-stop-daemon helper program.
-- Keith Dart
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Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support?
Googling the mailinglist archives, it was said that the previous
implementation had vulns and was hence scrapped, but it sucks not
having it.
There are unofficial forks of mplayer which have id3v2, but there's no
ebuild, in layman
' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is
there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the
'gentoo' repository? Thanks.
For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a
more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
rtfm'ing, smoothwall is the way to go.
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at apartment entirely in ten
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considering all of the existing
flavors/forks of MySQL that have existed since Sun bought MySQL. IIRC,
Monty has already started a new consortium for maintaining compatibility
between all of these flavors.
Aaron
My guess would be adds the ability to grab packages at the same time
you're compiling; so, grab packages needed to emerge one ebuild, then
while that one is compiling grab the next sources in the background.
That is also my understanding: after the first download, the process
forks: 1
large community-lead free
software projects like Linux, KDE, and GNOME rarely have forks aside
from a few corporate-sponsored forks to fill a niche (e.g. Android).
For the examples of projects-without-forks that you mention, we can find a
bunch of other examples that *do* have forks. mplayer
at ... desolation ... plastic
gmail.comforks ...
It is working know. It was my error :-/
I had it selected host pipe and it should be host device'
One of those days :-)
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Joseph
, it forks itself - as opposed to MPM_WORKER which
is based on threads.
So if you set threads, apache is compiled with MPM_WORKER, if not,
MPM_PREFORK is used.
If you are running a threaded apache, and you are choosing to use php as
apache module (apache2 use flag) then php with threads is required.
claimed to colleagues that there is no such thing as
a running Gentoo.
There's an AlanOS, and a DaleOS and a MarkOS and they are all forks of
Gentoo, but nobody actually ever runs Gentoo
:-)
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Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling:
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks
are full of bugs
. But the init script should have told
me that. Or even better, the init script should have done its job and
terminted the processes. See, pid files are just a proxy, they don't
work for all services and all setups. Maybe a process crashes before
it kills its forks. Maybe the server has a restart feature
Edwards grante Yow! ... bleakness...
at desolation... plastic
visi.comforks...
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Fork in the road]
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... plastic
gmail.comforks ...
it mean to run a modified version of Gentoo? Don't
we all? ;)
I've always claimed to colleagues that there is no such thing as
a running Gentoo.
There's an AlanOS, and a DaleOS and a MarkOS and they are all forks of
Gentoo, but nobody actually ever runs Gentoo
:-)
LOL... that's why I got
in ten
gmail.comfoot salad forks!!
and for the first person to jump just in case!
BillK
There is documentation on the MPMs in the upgrading guide [1]. In
summary though, you will probably prefork or worker. prefork is the same
style that apache-1.3 uses, which forks a new process for each child
(children can handle a certain number
as possible; for a
more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree;
so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for.
You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT
and adjust
istros a lot of differences of opinion
result in forks. Gentoo is really the only significant source-based
distro out there, and we're basically minimally viable as it is, so
there isn't much room for forking. As a result we're just forced to
work these sorts of issues out and come up wit
people attacking you, Debian
maintainers who suck and buggy forks is not helping your cause any.
Stroller wants to hear *your* point of view. As a token of respect for
all the users of your software (the original, not the fork) who are
here and reading this, could you please just describe your
.
Informing by saying things like all known forks are full of bugs
doesn't help, as it's indistinguishable from FUD. In fact, the more
you say it, the more it looks like FUD.
If you like to live with the big number of bugs in the fork, go
ahead, but you only harm yourself.
I've just read your
gmail.comfoot salad forks!!
permissive Apache license could prove detrimental because it
doesn't mandate publishing your proprietary changes (Libre- and OOo are
under LGPL). OOo could end up being the lowest common denominator
between a range of commercial forks (IBM Lotus Symphony, Oracle Open
Office, etc.) and LibreOffice.
[1]
http
performance should I switch Konqueror's engine to WebKit?
What rendering engine do you run in Konqueror?
The situation with Webkit and KHTML is ... difficult. The type of Webkit
engine you use in Chrome is different from what you use in Safari and so
on. Everyone forks it, adapts it into his eco-system
mappings
are preserved across forks and changes in them can be shared since
kernel 2.4.
[1] Yes, I know that malloc uses mmap but its mappings are MAP_PRIVATE.
Regards,
Florian Philipp
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know of?
What exactly does it mean to run a "modified version of Gentoo"? Don't
we all? ;)
I've always claimed to colleagues that there is no such thing as
"a running Gentoo".
There's an AlanOS, and a DaleOS and a MarkOS and they are
exactly does it mean to run a modified version of Gentoo? Don't
we all? ;)
I've always claimed to colleagues that there is no such thing as
a running Gentoo.
There's an AlanOS, and a DaleOS and a MarkOS and they are all forks of
Gentoo, but nobody actually ever runs Gentoo
:-)
Smart call
over wholeheartedly.
I'm not really sure what this has to do with Gentoo though.
Many distros are forking or contemplating forks:
https://devuan.org/
So your all or nothing scenario is a bit more complex; and
many users will migrate to other distros, with systemd or not
being one of the key
with Gentoo though.
Many distros are forking or contemplating forks:
https://devuan.org/
So your all or nothing scenario is a bit more complex; and
many users will migrate to other distros, with systemd or not
being one of the key elements in their decision, imho.
I do agree that it would be nice
ot today with
pinch+zoom and smartphones/tablets with higher pixel counts than many
notebooks. And with the idiots at Mozilla going off the deep end, there
are multiple forks of Firefox out there (Seamonkey, Palemoon, etc), by
people who are disgusted with Firefox's insanity. A company that kicks
controled forks. We
held a comite at my time and concluded that it wus not posible to unscrew this
mess without also hurting the porn industrie whish is unaceptable so we voted
on just giving gentooers a heads up. We also considered killing Donald Trump
before he passes the one kernel law
do about it?
Its not like we have sufficient staff to maintain a "Firefox but with
GTK2" fork, heck, we can't even keep alsa support.
I've gone to using other older firefox forks (palemoon) instead simply
because this march of progress doesn't seem to be delivering on that
"progress&
s
migration to get away from it. Same for Icinga, Shinken, Sensu and all
the other many nagios forks out there. Also Zabbix.
My current monitoring is snmp-based, and all I need monit for is as a
very narrowly-defined single-purpose watchdog.
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com
one, no go. IIRC, I had the
best luck with jmtpfs, but there are varous forks of it...
> Then I discovered SSHelper, an SSH server for Android. Now I can
> mount my phone's storage with sshfs using a command like
>
> sshfs -p 192.168.1.144:/storage/emulated/0 /mnt/phone
they want Unity
with improved accessibility. This is why large community-lead free
software projects like Linux, KDE, and GNOME rarely have forks aside
from a few corporate-sponsored forks to fill a niche (e.g. Android).
One could argue that Unity *is* a corporate-sponsored fork (of GNOME) to
fill
s be easy to undo when a replacement comes along?
Delete a directory or something and it's gone?? Can I leave the current
version installed since I can't upgrade and the current working one may
no longer be available to re-emerge? I'd assume I'd need to include the
path to it as well to make
that you prefer to see bad forks of your software pop out instead
of having a compromise about licenses and let your software live happily?
What do you call a modified CDDL license and why do you believe
there is a modified CDDL license?
Answering the question with question? (obviously I can
forks. Maybe the server has a restart feature that fails
to write the pid file because the init script created it as root but
the daemon relinquished privileges. Maybe there's a bug somewhere.
Maybe the pid file gets overwritten accidentally. Maybe the pid file
is stale because of a power failure
and put them there yourself.
There are so many things Nagios could do much better than it does, but
the maintainer is highly resistant to adding any features that he
doesn't use himself. So there are many forks around, why don't you try
one of those? Some of them are rather well coded. There's many
the alleged superiority of
your own project.
Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project
leaders like you.
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P.S. der neue Automat da oben ist echt ein Scherzkeks. Will Noten
annehmen hat aber keinen Schlitz dafür.
probier doch mal, was zu singen, vielleicht hat er ja ein Mikrofon
forks and
do not need to give back anything. It even gets worse with the Linux kernel,
where those trolls are allowed to publish propriatary driver crap (yes,
99% of the proprietary kernel drivers I had to cope with, like nv stuff
*are* really crap which tends to lock up the whole machine). At least
in, so it's good to do what you need to
quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the
process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER
/etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be *sure* that you're killing the
/usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks
process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same
time.
Alex Schuster wrote:
If you think the upgrade is necessary and don't want to wait until you
or s.o. else has physical access in case sshd doesn't come up again,
you could
try to restart sshd manually by issuing a kill -SIGHUP
good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to
kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this
problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be
sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd
login forks at the same
this
problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be
sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd
login forks at the same time.
OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes
in 'ps -ef':
root 2988 1
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 07:35 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
the situation will resolve that same way these things have always been
resolved, by one of these or a combination:
a. a strong leader emerges with a vision and takes over
b. a strong leader emerges with a vision and forks
c. common
* answer what happens when you run out of ram... or ram+swap,
actually, if you have swap. It can either kill processes of its own
accord or simply deny new processes and forks of old processes. The
article below has a much better explanation...
http://lwn.net/Articles/104179/
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Joshua M
and there is about
250GB of data to transfer. The CD spins periodically, the hard disk
activity light stays lit, and I can hear the old drive working
periodically, but I'm thinking this is too long.
The fastest and most correct way to copy directory trees is to use star
because star forks
:). As stated previously on this list, USE flags are
described in the portage tree in /$PORTAGEDIR/profiles/use.desc
Most of this info is from 'man emerge' BTW.
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BROKEN PLASTIC FORKS in it!!
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the gentoo make.conf variables.)
qemu-kvm does not come packaged with a cute and user-friendly gui for all the
confusing micro-configuration details like network bridging, and on and on,
ad nearly infinitum.
Both qemu-kvm and virtualbox are forks of the original qemu project, and
AFAICT they've stuck
with you. In 90% of all cases, simple and clean
code is preferable. And if I really card about performance, I'd use C or
Perl. However, there are still such rare cases where everything works
fine and you see no reason to code it all again but those three forks in
the innermost loop just kill your
in Safari and so
on. Everyone forks it, adapts it into his eco-system and adds features.
Some are later merged by other, others not.
I guess we will not see a merge of kthmlpart with kwebkitpart in the
near future but a common influx from both sides: kwebkitpart will get
better integration
not figure it out why virtualbox is
complaining.
What happens when you do cat /dev/ttyS0?
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at ... desolation ... plastic
gmail.comforks ...
'shared memory'
as in malloc'ed [1] or stack memory. Anonymous mmap'ed memory mappings
are preserved across forks and changes in them can be shared since
kernel 2.4.
Absolutely.
[1] Yes, I know that malloc uses mmap but its mappings are MAP_PRIVATE.
For the GNU libc, yeah. I noticed
really want to be nit-picking, we have to assume 'shared memory'
as in malloc'ed [1] or stack memory. Anonymous mmap'ed memory mappings
are preserved across forks and changes in them can be shared since
kernel 2.4.
Absolutely.
[1] Yes, I know that malloc uses mmap but its mappings
' in the 'many threads to an address
space', not the /dev/shm sense.
If we really want to be nit-picking, we have to assume 'shared memory'
as in malloc'ed [1] or stack memory. Anonymous mmap'ed memory mappings
are preserved across forks and changes in them can be shared since
kernel 2.4
that there is no such thing as
a running Gentoo.
There's an AlanOS, and a DaleOS and a MarkOS and they are all forks of
Gentoo, but nobody actually ever runs Gentoo
:-)
/pre
/blockquote
Smart call that you called it a running Gentoo rather than an
installed one, because my followup
-level software changes that
affect much more than just their own little universe, and will do it ON
ALL LINUX MACHINES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
Well, this will be the case if nobody forks these projects, or writes
competing projects. As Dale has pointed out, there already is eudev. For
systemd
]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it
to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred
over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news
. It really really sucks at this and
is coded from an extremely narrow point of view. Which explains the
numerous forks around (they all implement vital real world features that
Ethan refuses to commit).
jffnms is something I don't use myself, but it looks like the same class
of app as Nagios
directory, not /tmp
PrivateTmp=true
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Most daemons will be fairly similar to this, though a daemon which
forks will be slightly different (type=forking, and will have a
PIDfile setting). This one is a bit fancy in that it has a post-exec
script/program
-maybe-not situations.
It is a bit like having strong types and stricter build-time error
checking. It makes it a little harder to be lazier but saves you as
the user from the lazy developer.
As far as openrc goes, I suspect it is a pid file issue of some kind.
If a process goes and
ich are more focused on
the needs of a sub-group. As systemd and cluster codes both progress at a
rapid pace, there are tons of conflicts related to performance enhancements
and lowest level allocation/control of resources that is creating a need for
linux kernel forks. Some folks in the Hi Performance
of the "user respecting" forks
nor mozilla have any serious efforts to thwart browser fingerprinting,
private browsing session is simply a misnomer without it.
sofware projects replaced by government controled forks. We
held a comite at my time and concluded that it wus not posible to unscrew this
mess without also hurting the porn industrie whish is unaceptable so we voted
on just giving gentooers a heads up. We also considered killing Donald Trump
to the
>> free software wars. Upon returning to my time I fund that free software was
>> dead. Popular free sofware projects replaced by government controled forks.
>> We held a comite at my time and concluded that it wus not posible to unscrew
>> this mess withou
d to the free software wars. Upon returning to my time I
> >> fund that free software was dead. Popular free sofware projects
> >> replaced by government controled forks. We held a comite at my time
> >> and concluded that it wus not posible to unscrew this mess with
Upon returning to my time I fund that
>> free software was dead. Popular free sofware projects replaced by
>> government controled forks. We held a comite at my time and concluded
>> that it wus not posible to unscrew this mess without also hurting the
>> porn industrie wh
n inittab and init will start it, and restart it
if it dies. There is just no control over things like dependencies
and sequencing, and you have to watch out because if you have init run
some bash script, which launches a process that forks, and your script
terminates, then init will re-launch it possibly
with enough resources to maintain full browsers,
and any forks of their browsers which diverge more than a patchset
of essentially fixed size are doomed to fail for this very reason.
On 04/02 08:23, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de <tu...@posteo.de> wrote:
> > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only
> >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers,
>
tu...@posteo.de <tu...@posteo.de> wrote:
> On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only
>> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers,
>> and any forks of their browsers which d
b functionality which
goes beyond that.
Essentially, there is no other choice than to live with it:
Stable firefox-52 and maybe some firefox forks (palemoon, waterfox,
tox-browser) support legacy extensions for a while. However, if they
support them for a longer period and do not have similar reso
different shell from Bash? (.bashrc is inherently
> Bash.)
>
> Or are you using Bash as your interactive shell and using a different
> shell for sub-commands / forks / etc.?
I am using bash. In a previous message Jorge suggested I add:
shopt -s checkwinsize
in my
don't leave anything behind.
Typically an initramfs will unlink everything inside, kill any stray
processes (if it even forks anything in the first place), and then
will exec the new init from the previous init. That starts up init as
PID 1 with nothing else running, and no trace of the initramfs
e. Services are
generally in separate cgroups while make would all be in another, so
if it looked at total use of the cgroup and not the individual process
then it would weigh something that forks heavily a lot higher.
--
Rich
ee and not masked. And, the PHP project is empty:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:PHP
I'm still working on dev-lang/php (so it's not abandoned), but we just
don't have the kind of resources required to keep what are essentially
forks of old PHP versions alive. Barring a miracle, they'll b
a program using KDE or GNOME,
your shell or desktops forks a new process for it.
Up until very recently most programs used threads to do several things
at once; some years ago apache started to do a hybrid approach,
where it forks or launches threads dependign on the load of the
system, other server
se two are related.
> With more mainstream binary distros a lot of differences of opinion
> result in forks. Gentoo is really the only significant source-based
> distro out there, and we're basically minimally viable as it is, so
> there isn't much room for forking. As a result we're just forced t
pages swapped out
4307893 interrupts
6269353 CPU context switches
1202832933 boot time
7300 forks
Also look into a hardware difference between this machine and the
others, and differences in the kernel config and loaded modules.
Nothing here, all is similar to other
, considering the alleged superiority of
your own project.
Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project
leaders like you.
I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread
die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days and
frankly, it doesn't seem
is very telling, considering the alleged superiority of
your own project.
Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project
leaders like you.
I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread
die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days
/etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be
*sure* that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one
of your sshd login forks at the same time.
Alex Schuster wrote:
If you think the upgrade is necessary and don't want to wait
until you or s.o. else has physical access in case sshd
to quickly if you do need to
kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this
problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just
be
sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your
sshd
login forks at the same time
to
kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this
problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` -
just be
sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your
sshd
login forks at the same time.
OK, I've got
login forks at the same time.
OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes
in 'ps -ef':
root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]/0
Should
it suspicious, for a distro not to have
it's own install. Other forks of Gentoo have their install methods.
SNIP
So yes, drop the (graphical) liveCD 0ption and create installation
method(s) that begin simple (therefore easy to maintain and update)
and ...
I haven't followed this whole thread
not to have
it's own install.
Why's that? The documentation should just point to some other
install CDs, if you'd like to call GRML that.
Other forks of Gentoo have their install methods.
Nice for them.
For those new to gentoo, it's like getting married without a honeymoon
IMHO.
I
is normally provided by an single patch against the
upstream release.
* Fixes here are done generic, not distro specific.
* The forks are maintained in an separate project, independent from
distros, but working close to them.
* This project also works close to the upstream and also tries
/bin/rc.news
ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop
User=news
Group=news
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it
to run in the foreground), use Type
are still using.]
[...]
Most daemons will be fairly similar to this, though a daemon which
forks will be slightly different (type=forking, and will have a
PIDfile setting).
The daemon is currently of the traditional forking variety with a PID
file, so it should lend itself to Type=forking PIDFile
, that I can overlook all disadvantages of
chromium: this feature is security. Unlike other browsers (I don't
consider chrome or chromium forks here as a separate browsers)
chromium is secure by design: it isolates tabs and plugins,
supports various namespaces, seccomp sandboxing, yama framefork.
Other
at apartment entirely in ten
gmail.comfoot salad forks!!
>
> I also do not know much about waterfox, but if one goal ist
> to keep legacy extensions, I am afraid it will go the palemoon
> way, too:
> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only
> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain ful
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