Dear Marcos,

Can you give me a detail description on how to use a .xyz file (that only 
contains the number of atoms and their coordinates) to generate a crystal or 
repeat the it at a certain direcion. I can not find it in the manual, and I 
find in the cif file it uses fractional coordinates. So directly edit the 
lattice vector does not work. 

Best.

Guangping
2011-04-12



Guangping Zhang



发件人: "Ricardo Faccio" <rfac...@fq.edu.uy>
发送时间: 2011-04-07 09:24
主 题: Re: [SIESTA-L] Off-topic: Vesta
收件人: siesta-l@uam.es



Hi Eric 
The process is as following: 
Edit-> Structure-> Remove Symmetry -> Apply! 
Remember to save a cif file! 
Regards 
Ricardo 
> Hey Ricardo, 
> 
> May I ask you how do you save a structure with the P1 symmetry. 
> Actually, when I set the symmetry to P1 and save it, it does not seem to 
> work. 
> Yours, 
> 
>           Eric. 
> 
> On 04/06/2011 09:52 AM, Ricardo Faccio wrote: 
>> Hi Marcos 
>> I think that you procedure is fine. The problem with vesta is that it 
>> needs yo save changes by step. I mean, first Open your file and remove 
>> the symmetry, and get a p1 structure. Then save it as a cif file. 
>> Afyer this read this file and perform the transformation, and save it 
>> as a different cif file. Finally load it and apply the symmetry, if 
>> you want, and get another cif file. If you have further problems send 
>> me your sf and i'll try to check it 
>> Regards 
>> Ricardo 
>> 
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>> El 06/04/2011, a las 10:27, Marcos Veríssimo Alves 
>> <marcos.verissimo.al...@gmail.com> escribió: 
>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> So, great to know there are knowledgeable people on Vesta in the 
>>> mailing list. My question is the following: I have a cubic structure, 
>>> a perovskite. I have a [sqrt(2) x sqrt(2)] cell of this structure, 
>>> with relaxed positions with rotated oxygen octahedra in the x-y plane 
>>> only, out of which I would like to create a [2 x 2] cell. I actually 
>>> managed to do it (using a xsf file that i created from the xyz 
>>> output), but in a way which I would not call the most elegant. It is 
>>> also a way that is more prone to errors, than I wish it were. 
>>> 
>>> The problem is, when one loads an xsf file with the coordinates in 
>>> Vesta, it displays a structure with more atoms than the unit cell 
>>> actually does, and apparently it is the equivalent of XCrysDen's 
>>> conventional cell mode. However, one can choose, in XCrysDen, to 
>>> display only the translational asymmetric unit. This is one thing I 
>>> don't know how to do in Vesta. For a matter of convenience (laziness, 
>>> actually :) ), I have set both PRIMVEC and CONVVEC to the cubic 
>>> lattice vectors, in the xsf file. 
>>> 
>>> Although I have managed to create a [2 x 2] cell, starting from the 
>>> [sqrt(2) x sqrt(2)] using a transformation matrix (easy to deduce), I 
>>> have to eliminate some atoms by setting boundaries to the fractional 
>>> coordinates and checking that the number of atoms is actually the 
>>> expected number. In the case of a [2 x 2] cell, of course, we have 4 
>>> times as many atoms as in the [1 x 1] cell. However, I would be more 
>>> reassured if there were an automatic way to guarantee that the 
>>> correct number of atoms would be output, instead of having to make 
>>> somewhat extensive checks to ensure this. 
>>> 
>>> Another doubt is about symmetrization of atomic coordinates. If I 
>>> choose a space group for Vesta to symmetrize the atoms' coordinates, 
>>> it ends up creating extra atoms which I can't seem to eliminate - at 
>>> least i don't know the correct way to do it. I have tried the option 
>>> "remove duplicate atoms", but it didn't work. Has anyone run into 
>>> such problems? 
>>> 
>>> If things are not clear, I'll be glad to provide an xsf file to 
>>> illustrate the issues. 
>>> 
>>> Best regards, 
>>> 
>>> Marcos 
>> 
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