Thanks Marshall. PT
________________________________ From: Marshall Dudley <mdud...@king-cart.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 1:24:34 PM Subject: Re: CS>Precipitating calcium before distillation You don't have to worry about it, it is left behind when you do the distillation. Marshall On 1/10/2011 11:33 AM, h.godavari wrote: > > I am afraid you do get some of that Sodium remaining in the water. I am not >sure how to get rid of it altogether. May be there is a chemist around who can >step in :-) > > regards > hg > > PT Ferrance wrote: >> Thanks, it does help. One more question. If one uses this to precipitate >> out >>the calcium, does one get water that is high in sodium chloride? This would >>create a whole other problem... and perhaps a more serious one for someone >>trying to control their salt. >> Thanks again. >> PT >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* h.godavari <h.godav...@shaw.ca> >> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Mon, January 10, 2011 10:16:58 AM >> *Subject:* Re: CS>Precipitating calcium before distillation >> >> I think it was a typing error - a matter of mind racing ahead of the fingers >>:-) - Calcium carbonate is insoluble in water its what sea-shells are made >>of. >> >> Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and sodium carbonate (washing soda) are >> both >>highly soluble in water When you heat baking soda above 70 c , it looses on e >>carbon dioxide (NaHCO3 -> Na2CO3) , ignore stoichiometry for now, and it >>becomes >>washing soda. >> >> When you add this to water containing Calcium (probably Calcium Chloride) >> they >>swap parts and the resulting Calcium carbonate precipitates out of solution >>and >>you get de-calcified water. >> >> Sodium Carbonate + Calcium Chloride ->Sodium Chloride + Calcium Carbonate >> >> hope that helps. >> >> regards >> hg >> >> PT Ferrance wrote: >>> I'm confused. Daddy Bob said he uses calcium carbonate to precipitate out >>>calcium and then said we could make our own by baking sodium bicarbonate. >>>Am I >>>missing something here? >>> Thanks. >>> PT >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Frank <frankcuns-r...@comcast.net> >>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com >>> *Sent:* Mon, January 10, 2011 7:52:13 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Precipitating calcium before distillation >>> >>> Hi sodium bicarbonate “baked” at 350F may become sodium carbonate, NOT >>> calcium >>>carbonate. >>> Cheers >>> >>> *From:* PT Ferrance <mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:14 PM >>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Precipitating calcium before distillation >>> >>> Hi, >>> Can anyone tell me why baking 'sodium' bicarbonate at 350 degrees for 2-2.5 >>>hours will become 'calcium' carbonate? How does sodium magically become >>>calcium? Thanks. >>> PT >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* "rans...@atmc.net" <rans...@atmc.net> >>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com >>> *Sent:* Mon, January 3, 2011 12:49:40 PM >>> *Subject:* CS>Precipitating calcium before distillation >>> >>> For years I wanted my own water distiller but I knew that my calcium >>> carbonate loaded water would prematurely destroy one. We have to vigorously >>> clean any pot after boiling water in it and have to religiously descale the >>> coffee maker. I also wanted to build my own larger scale water distiller but >>> the same problem applied- not worth the money and trouble because of the >>> rapid calcium buildup. >>> >>> I have finally found two methods that will bring this closer to reality for >>> me but have very practical applications already. >>> >>> I now de-calcify nearly all our drinking water. We do it in the common 5 >>> gallon polycarbonate water jugs thusly: >>> >>> The secret precipitating agent is not at all a secret- it's calcium >>> carbonate- plain old washing soda. It's still made by Arm & Hammer and can >>> be bought on eBay if you can't find it locally. The dose for my water is >>> about 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Stir in and dissolve well and watch the >>> calcium cloud the water then fall to the bottom of the jug. About 24 hours >>> later, siphon off with a small tube and through a funnel with several coffee >>> filters. I use my filters over many times. >>> >>> Concerned about non-food grade calcium carbonate? Make your own. Spread some >>> baking soda out in a pan and bake it at 350F for 2-2.5 hours. >>> >>> This preemptive process should add much life to any distiller. >>> >>> The best calcium cleaning solution I ever used in a coffee maker will >>> probably work fine for distillers too: Standard 5% white vinegar to which I >>> add powdered citric acid until it turns yellow. >>> >>> DaddyBob >>> >>> >>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com >>><mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com>?subject=unsubscribe> >>> Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >>> >>> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>><mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com>> >>> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com >><mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>> >>> >>> >> > > > > . >
