...me too, more than ever.

Cheers,
Chris

On 08/22/2016 06:13 PM, Fabian Schnuer Gohde wrote:
> Still Softimage all the way here.
> -Fabian
> 
> On 22 August 2016 at 14:42, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
>> So you would like a showing of hands who still uses Softimage in
>> production and are to some degree reliant on having access to help such as
>> the Wiki every now and then.
>>
>> One big hand here! To me this is very real.
>>
>> And more reliant than ever since this list is getting smaller as people
>> are migrating to The Dark Side or other and better alternatives.
>>
>> //Morten Bartholdy
>>
>> Den 19. august 2016 klokken 17:05 skrev Maurice Patel <
>> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>:
>>
>> My problem is I cannot actually gauge whether this is really a serious
>> issue or not.
>> I know quite rightly that people are upset with the EOL of Softimage so I
>> am not sure if what is being expressed here is just a reference of that
>> anger (which I can do nothing about) or really related to the wiki being a
>> useful resource rather than an obsolete website no one visits. There is no
>> point trying to save an obsolete website hoping to fix anger at the EOL of
>> Softimage because it will not. Anyway I am still researching options
>> including releasing the data (if it can be done so in compliance with our
>> privacy rules) to the community– I do not know how feasible anything is.
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Tél:  514 954-7134
>> Cell: 514 242-6549
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-bounces@listproc.
>> autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harovas
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:45 AM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Wiki EOL soon
>>
>> So what you are say, Maurice, is because some people have been making
>> comments that you don't like, or are not constructive, you are going to get
>> upset and not make an effort to do the right thing?
>>
>> You either want to do the right thing or you don't.
>>
>> Your message had the same tone as a parent getting upset with children,
>> and then acting childish to get back at them.
>>
>> Everyone is being a bit childish now, but none of the people you are upset
>> with started any of this.
>> It started with Autodesk killing Softimage, and continues with killing the
>> wiki.
>>
>> You didn't personally "do" any of that, but the company you work for did.
>> I may have missed it, but I did not see anyone personally insulting you
>> (and if they did, that was wrong). But your response was as if they did.
>>
>> Which honestly, and with no malice intended, is not exactly helping the
>> situation either.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Maurice Patel <maurice.pa...@autodesk.com
>> <maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>> OK, I am not getting much rational feedback here and if you are just
>> picking apart every word I say with inaccurate speculation it is hard for
>> me to gauge how serious the need is and whether it is actually worth any
>> effort on my part. From what I understand the server was maintained by a
>> Softimage dev, that person is now doing other things, the server will be
>> replaced and that will be the end and even by "Softimage" standards it has
>> no traffic. As far as I see this has turned into just another excuse to
>> take pot shots at Autodesk which while they may be fun is not convincing me
>> that I really need to do something about this.
>> Maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Tél:  514 954-7134<tel:514%20954-7134>
>> Cell: 514 242-6549<tel:514%20242-6549>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Schoenberger
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:37 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> Subject: RE: Wiki EOL soon
>>
>> |> Almost nobody in Autodesk terms could be many in Softimage terms...
>>
>> Right, that website produces only 0.00001% traffic of all AD websites.
>> Therefore it has to be killed.
>>
>> Or Autodesk is now part of a secret www group that has the ambition to
>> remove outdated websites. As, beside from that website, all other website
>> (including the first forum posts on the area) are brand new.
>> Imagine all the young artists searching for a Maya issue and accidentally
>> reading Softimage help files, that must not happen!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Holger Schönberger
>> technical director
>> The day has 24 hours, if that does not suffice, I will take the night
>>
>> |> -----Original Message-----
>> |> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> |> [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf  |> Of Morten Bartholdy  |>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:03 PM  |> To:
>> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>  |>
>> Subject: RE: Wiki EOL soon  |>  |> Almost nobody in Autodesk terms could be
>> many in Softimage terms...
>> |>
>> |> To me it is invaluable to be able to find info on the odd  |> tool or
>> functionality every now and then, but I don't visit  |> the Wiki when I
>> don't need it. I will be using Softimage  |> for years to come, as Maya,
>> though transforming and  |> improving, is still not a good replacement, and
>> I can get a  |> lot more work done in a hurry with Softimage.
>> |>
>> |> //Morten
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