Yeah, what Todd said!!!

God I wish I could write like that...

fred


At 11:30 AM 1/6/2004 -0500, Appal Energy wrote:
>Rather interesting John.
>
>Protecting whom from what? Weapons of mass deception?
>
>There's a time for assault and a time for a long seige. Unfortuantely, your
>boys don't know how to differentiate between the hands on a clock and have
>swept the world into a miasma of distortion.
>
>I don't think that there is a soul on this list who wouldn't agree to some
>extent or another that a military for defense is a prudent recourse.
>
>However, what you will find is that more people than not believe that use of
>the military under false pretenses and the manufacture of fear and fear
>mongoring in order to substantiate those false pretenses is a coward's
>behavior, the behavior of those with an agenda of manipulation and
>control, the behavior of the deranged, or all of the above.
>
>Definition
>Chickenhawk - n. - A person enthusiastic about war, provided someone else
>fights it; particularly when that enthusiasm is undimmed by personal
>experience with war; most emphatically when that lack of experience came in
>spite of ample opportunity in that person's youth.
>http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=CHDB_about
>
>Don't hesitate to hit up their home page as well and then peruse from there.
>It appears that you are in dire need of a daily dose of humour to pull you
>out of your Limbaughtic state of malease. (It's a healthier cure than
>prescription pain killers, which numb the mind as well as the pain.)
>
>As for that sign off of yours... "Regards from Earth?"
>
>You might want to start circumnavigating those fumes exuding from the
>sewage pit of those who brought us Weapons of Mass Deception. The inevitable
>result of avoiding such caution is to quickly find your feet no longer
>anchored to terra firma. Skittering off into the ozone, perhaps, but
>certainly not anchored.
>
>Todd Swearingen
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Fwd: FW: Feeling Patriotic?
>
>
> >
> > Dear Jeff,
> > Now I'm interested.... who has been protecting your
> > chicken ass? Have you ever put anything on any line?
> > who protects you? Certainly not the folks that spew
> > the " blood for oil" cliche... then you do the
> > "chicken hawk" thing? Is that all you have? What would
> > you expect from Howard Dean? Tell Me, Is it best to be
> > half hawk, or all chicken?
> > (cluck)... you will be rendered down to a bar of soap
> > by the people that you support.
> > Regards from Earth,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would be curious as to what he thinks about a
> > > blood-for-oil campaign run by chicken hawks.
> > >
> > > It seems like some people find it easy to put
> > > someone elses life on the line while they hide out
> > > and stay awol.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    From: "Fred Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Feeling Patriotic?
> > >
> > > My father-in-law tried that
> > > "I'm-a-vet-so-what-I-think-counts-more-
> > > than-what-you-think" garbage with me one time.
> > > Granted he did serve
> > > in WWII and I do appreciate it.  However on the day
> > > that he pulled
> > > his "I'm-a-Vet" line on me I was ready to put it in
> > > perspective for
> > > him.
> > >
> > > This occurred during the Clinton "Oral office"
> > > incident.  My father-
> > > in-law said that as a vet that
> > > "Draft-Dodging-Dirtbag should be
> > > tossed out of office!"  I told him that I thought
> > > the whole affair
> > > was laughable at best but impeachment was an
> > > overreaction.
> > >
> > > Well, his opinion was that since he served his
> > > country that he put
> > > the time in so his opinion should count more than
> > > mine.  To which I
> > > responed  "How does that work, if you served you get
> > > to vote in
> > > elections more than once?"
> > >
> > > It made him think of what he was saying beyond the
> > > issue we were
> > > talking about for a moment.  He now is very careful
> > > about bringing up
> > > political personalities.  If his most hated liberal
> > > of the day does
> > > something that seems unsavory, a right-wing zealot
> > > gets exposed as a
> > > hypocrite.
> > >
> > >
> > > fred
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hello Sid
> > > >
> > > > >>In a message dated 1/4/2004 12:04:04 PM Pacific
> > > Standard Time,
> > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Hello All:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>As a US Veteran (Purple Heart) I fully support
> > > your freedom of
> > > communicating
> > > > >>your perspective is speach or letters. l do not
> > > however, fully
> > > agree with
> > > > >>what you
> > > > >>wrote.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Best regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Clouston Energy Research, LLC
> > > > >>Sidney Clouston
> > > >
> > > > It's a bit puzzling. First, Gustl didn't write it,
> > > he forwarded it
> > > > (clearly marked as such). Jennifer Sellers wrote
> > > it. Second, of
> > > > course you're welcome to disagree, but then you
> > > should say why you
> > > > disagree, and perhaps offer some alternative view
> > > or information.
> > > > Otherwise there's no discussion and nothing goes
> > > forward. The only
> > > > apparent reason for your disagreement that you've
> > > offered is that
> > > > you're a US Veteran (Purple Heart). That's no
> > > reason at all, as
> > > Todd
> > > > said. Why would the opinion of a US veteran carry
> > > any special
> > > weight
> > > > in such issues? Especially on an international
> > > list like this one.
> > > > I'd say it's irrelevant. You admit something
> > > similar - a veteran
> > > > needn't necessarily be right, and needn't
> > > necessarily be wrong
> > > either:
> > > >
> > > > >... It would be wrong to think that any Veteran
> > > > >by virtue being a Veteran has all truth to say
> > > without being
> > > analyzed for
> > > > >valid aspects if any. Conversely, being a Veteran
> > > does not
> > > preclude
> > > > >any veracity.
> > > >
> > > > Just like anyone else.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, many US veterans would agree with Jennifer
> > > Sellers, many
> > > say
> > > > similar things, write similar articles and post
> > > them on the
> > > Internet.
> > > > As Gustl did - Gustl is himself a US veteran.
> > > Would you fully agree
> > > > with this, for instance? (There are plenty more
> > > instances.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.lefthook.org/Politics/Seidman3%20111103.html
> > > > An Interview with Stan Goff
> > > > Stan Goff knows better than most people about what
> > > really goes on
> > > in
> > > > the US military. He served from 1970 through 1996,
> > > for many years
> > > as
> > > > a Master Sergeant with the Special Forces and
> > > Delta Force and as a
> > > > military instructor at West Point. In the process
> > > of his military
> > > > career he was deployed to Vietnam, South Korea,
> > > Colombia, El
> > > > Salvador, Grenada, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama,
> > > Peru, Venezuela,
> > > > Somalia, and Haiti. Retired, he is now an
> > > anti-imperialist activist
> > > > and founder of Bring Them Home Now
> > > (www.bringthemhomenow.org). He
> > > is
> > > > the author of Hideous Dream: A Soldier's Memoir of
> > > the US Invasion
> > > of
> > > > Haiti, as well as the forthcoming Full Spectrum
> > > Disorder. He lives
> > > in
> > > > Raleigh, NC.
> > > > [more]
> > > >
> > > > >It is in the interest of better understanding
> > > that I return
> > > comments.
> > > >
> > > > You haven't said anything yet except that you
> > > don't fully agree.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Dear Fellows and Friends:
> > > > >
> > > > >It is in the interest of better understanding
> > > that I return
> > > comments.  First
> > > > >off
> > > > >a correction in my name which if observed closely
> > > one would notice
> > > only
> > > > >one "y" in it as I spelled it.  Please correct
> > > your records Mr.
> > > Swearingen.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Guess that's easy to understand Sydney. Your
> > > voice is but one of
> > > 260 some
> > > > > >odd million (in the US). There's bound to be a
> > > few people in
> > > such a lot who
> > > > > >think, believe and see things differently.
> > > > >
> > > > >Here I fully agree, as I learned in college
> > > philosophy of the many
> > > fallacies
> > > > >of
> > > > >reasoning one may be in error in.  One fallacy is
> > > "Argumentum ad
> > > Hominem"
> > > > >(Latin for argument against the man).  It would
> > > be
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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