Steve, Always have liked the all too human trait of trying to justify by comparison.
If A is acceptable, than anything less than A must be acceptable as well, eh? Makes a cumulative toxicologists life a genuine nightmare though. Nothing personal. Just amazingly amusing the number of times this rationale has come up and the number of people who have used it in this thread. When we were children it was called the "He did it first!" principle. Oddly enough, it didn't seem to "fly" too terribly well back then either. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: turbines kill birds > Slower speeds have an important purpose that is overlooked.. Reduced > maintenance. > > mono towers... means no roosting place. > > And last of all.. There are usually problems with early versions of of > anything. Just part of the learning curve. > > And yes I will admit a few birds have been killed by FAST Moving > objects... Still say we kill more birds in this state in a month, > well during duck season .. perhaps a day (hunters) than the numbers of > birds killed by wind turbines starting with day one of the first one > that was erected. > > SteveP > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In northern California, there have been eagles killed by wind > turbines. It is not an urban myth. However, in places like East Texas, > the killing of birds, especially raptors, is not a problem because > there are not many there to begin with. That is probley true of were > you live too. > > > > I have seen this used as a major argument against wind turbines > before. If I remember correctly, some of the newer wind turbines have > a top speed of 12 mph, no matter how fast the wind blows. I think that > part of the reason for this is because of birds. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: turbines kill birds > > > > dont remember who sent that silly post that turbines kill birds.. but > > it is my belief that this is an urban legend. > > > > Turbines just do not turn fast enough that a bird will not see them > > and get out of the way. > > > > Perhaps whomever said this was refering to home brew turbines which in > > reality really do turn MUCH MUCH faster than those found on wind farms. > > > > Guess it is my opinion that the person who started this stupid > > rumor... without showing where the bird bodies lay .... must be a > > sparrow brain. > > > > So... With this in mind... Show me give me three places I can find > > something that really shows that birds are killed. We definitely have > > been using wind turbines in the Netherlands for hundreds of years.. > > dont see any dead birds there. > > > > Have wind farms in California ... Dont see any dead birds there. > > > > Have them in florida... no dead birds there.. > > > > We dont have them in Louisiana. To many hunters killing birds here. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
