Keith,

What is the URL of this homestead list?  I'd like to check it out.

Greg H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Addison 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 13:34
  Subject: [biofuel] A classic post on homesteading


  Fwd from the Homestead List - K


  >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:22:46 -0800
  >From: Tvoivozhd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: "Homestead mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Subject: Re: Is this a Homestead List?
  >
  >Clint Novak wrote:
  >
  >>Personally I like all the discussions, but I am curious.  What does
  >>homesteading mean to some of you folks on the list?  I'm working toward
  >>buying some property out in the boonies, putting up solar electric and
  >>heating, possibly a small wind generator, but it's a ways off now.  Any
  >>comments or clarifications, I'm interested.
  >>
  >>Clint
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >tvoivozhd---as I said before, building a mostly self-sufficient 
  >rural homestead is the most drastic political statement you can 
  >make---providing you really do it.
  >
  >It is exactly like starting a successful business---think out all 
  >the necessary elements, their sequence, and get started.  Setting up 
  >a calendar with a list of events that should occur in sequence---in 
  >the construction business it is called the "Critical Path 
  >Method"---to economize on time and cost, some of the events can 
  >occur simultaneosly during the path of their projected sequence, 
  >hence the name Critical Path Method.
  >
  >These events have to be achievable---otherwise you establish a 
  >pattern of failure instead of a pattern of success.
  >
  >Your best bet is to start with the real estate most favorable for 
  >your means and what I used to regard until recently as survivalist 
  >paranoia.  Add to the usual real estate factors of year-around 
  >springs and creeks, a location that would be livable and productive 
  >after a climate change and soaring energy costs.  Do some research 
  >on the former, and have at least a fifteen acre woodlot for the 
  >latter.  Trees are the cheapest set and forget solar collector, and 
  >a big pond the best set and forget producer of cheap protein for the 
  >table---fishing will also provide some recreation which you are apt 
  >to need.
  >
  >The first thing after buying suitable land is to build a 
  >workshop---live in it temporarily if you have to, though my advice 
  >is to buy a distress mobile home---they are constantly being evicted 
  >from trailer parks for the sin of being over five years old.  They 
  >are like instant dehydrated housing---add a little soap and water, a 
  >spring or well, a composting toilet (Biolet is a best buy) to avoid 
  >the cost and operating nuisance of flush toilets and septic tanks.
  >
  >I see these distress mobile homes all the time here in a city of 
  >about 90,000 people-- good choices for $1000.  When you are done 
  >with one, if you want to, you can recapture all of your investment, 
  >maybe even turn a profit on resale..
  >
  >After solving the problem of temporary onsite housing, build a 
  >workshop to house your tools. construction library, and construction 
  >materials.  Insure the damned things against theft, vandalism, fire, 
  >windstorm and liability---it has saved my hind end on many occasions.
  >Learn all you can about tools and construction early---everything 
  >you need can be obtained for free at your local library or on 
  >interlibrary loan.  Wouldn't hurt to strike up an acquaintance with 
  >a good building contractor and watch his employees land 
  >subcontractors like a hawk.  For starters, read all of the Ken Kern 
  >books on the nuts and bolts of various types of construction, and 
  >Christopher Alexander on a Pattern Language to maximize livability 
  >in a structure.  Toward the same end, look at all the later Frank 
  >Lloyd Wright designs (avoid the Indiana Box with 90-degree corners, 
  >eliminate unnecessaru which constrict views and induce 
  >claustrophobia as a cause for divorce)  Others are Alfred Browning 
  >Parker designs and those of Allen Dow.  Bad house design costs as 
  >much as good house design---don't waste money on bad design.
  >
  >To save money, use onsite materials as much as possible---wood from 
  >your woodlot, the dirt under your feet in the form of adobe or CEB 
  >(compressed earthen block).  Use a wide roof overhang if you want it 
  >to last forever.
  >
  >I can't emphasize this too much for everyone living in a rural 
  >area---FIREPROOF YOUR NEW HOUSE..  Never, ever use cedar or asphalt 
  >shingles---a standing-seam metal roof outlasts anything else and 
  >will survive a shower of unwanted sparks from a blazing National 
  >Forest or unused hayfield.  Corrugated sheet metal works as well for 
  >roof and exterior walls, is much cheaper and doesn't look quite so 
  >nice.  Well, maybe not, I've seen some very nice looking housed in 
  >East Texas using corrugated enameled steel roofs and wall siding. 
  >If you are really in a high risk area for forest fire, a roof and 
  >wall sprinkler system is the best fire insurance you can buy---it 
  >will get a twenty percent or more premium reduction  from your 
  >swindling insurance company---always better to avoid fire than fight 
  >the inevitable fight with the insurance company if your house burns 
  >down.  They won't be happy, and you won't be happy unless you have a 
  >wide fire-break between your house and a potential forest fire.
  >
  >Rock is fireproof, but very time consuming to lay up properly.  Dirt 
  >won't burn either. In any but the most benign climates, if you lay 
  >up rock, adobe or CEB--make it in cavity-wall format. to minimize 
  >loss of heat or coolth. In earthquake country reinforce walls 
  >adequately too.
  >
  >After you house yourself and family, add outbuildings for animals as 
  >time and wallet permits.  They are more work than the uninitiated 
  >might expect, but make rural life much more enjoyable.  Unless you 
  >are far enough south for year-around grazing (like the Mississippi 
  >Delta), you will need to have haymaking equipment.  This can include 
  >a used diesel tractor in good condition, but "forty acres and a 
  >mule" might be appropriate if  your climate and energy paranoia 
  >makes you look for something even more sustainable.
  >
  >Another thing relating to domestic animals---size matters. If you 
  >butcher a cow and the weather is warm, you have to have 
  >refrigeration unless you have an enormous family to feed.  Rabbits, 
  >chickens. goats and sheep are a lot more manageable---both as 
  >relates to butchering, and being able to eat them before the meat 
  >spoils.  Another nice thing about a big spring (and springhouse) Not 
  >difficult to cobble together a food cooler in the springhouse that 
  >will greatly extend shelf-life of any food..
  >
  >Of course, your garden should come earlier---together with means of 
  >food preservation.  Root crops  buried in sand, crated apples and 
  >pears wrapped in paper or whatever and kept in a root cellar.  If 
  >you live in Hurricane Alley, it will double as a storm shelter.  I 
  >have three times had my bedroom roof and ceiling vanish in a violent 
  >storm---don't think it could happen in a root cellar.
  >
  >For food preservation, I think the best method is using a solar food 
  >dryer.  There are others, but the design in Homepower Magazine 
  >archives is an excellent one.
  >
  >
  >http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PatternLanguage  (Christopher Alexander 
  >reference)  I've got a lot of FLW, Alfred Browning Parker and Allen 
  >Dow material but haven't the slightest idea where it is squirreled 
  >away.  I do keep the Ken Kern books close at hand---too close 
  >evidently, they are coming apart at the seams.



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