Hi there Eva >Hi there Keith, > >I did an archive search for "FuelMeister" and did not find anything but this >thread.
Which archives did you use? Do what Yahoo laughingly calls a search and indeed all you'll find is this thread, unless you find a Yahoo ad page first. Use the real archives and you'll get 46 hits, lots of threads. DON'T use Yahoo's archives. Apart from the ads, it searches the archives in tiny steps of 50 or so messages at a time, so to do a single search you'd need to hit 670 pages. Yahoo pages. Plus all the ads. Completely useless. Probably you only "searched" the 50 or so most recent messages. Use the list's independent archives, linked at the bottom of every message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ It's a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, especially biodiesel - it contains 34,000 messages over the last three years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. It's provided and maintained by list member Martin Klingensmith, with powerful, fast and efficient searching, and no ads. (Thankyou Martin! Whatever would we do without you!) There's also the archives of our other list, Biofuels-biz, which we closed a few months ago but the archives is still available. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/ Hm. I think Yahoo's archives is a bit like the FuelMeister. LOL! Trouble is it's not very funny, it's irresponsible. In both cases. >What are the problems you have with the FuelMeister? I don't have any such problems because I don't have a FuelMeister. Yes I know that's not what you meant, but the archives will tell all, and Todd just did that too. We have several processors of various sizes that we built ourselves, the two smaller ones are featured at our website, the 90-litre one isn't, yet: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors: Journey to Forever The 90-litre processor would be comparable to the FuelMeister, in capacity if little else. It didn't take us "at least 150 hours" to build, it cost us less than US$100, and it works really well. Chuck said this in the previous exchange about this that he's apparently pretending never happened (with my reply): > >Might be able to track down all the parts and build a good >prototype in 3 months. Then improve and improve, and improve. Should >be rock solid in 6-12 months. That is about what the Fuel M took. >Now on 4th generation. So while I don't like the price it does not >suprise me. > > ... our processor set-up took nothing like as long as your three >months to build, and cost about a 10th of your $1,000, and it was >right first time - after a few thousand litres of great fuel there's >nothing I want to change. It's not just a copy of other designs >either, lots of things had to be thought out and there are new ideas >in it. I'd certainly know better than to throw good money at that >pile of junk. Rock-solid? What do you use for rocks in your part of >the world, jelly? > >These are real processors, if you want ready-made: >http://biofuelsystems.com > >And have a look at Mike Pelly's new Model A, available soon: >http://www.OlympiaGreenFuels.com > >If you have a look back in the archives you'll see a post from Mark >describing how she and a couple of others put together a fumeless >processor from scratch in an hour and a half or something. The $150 >Fumeless Processor: >http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html We've done a lot more than a few thousand litres in that processor now and I'm still happy with it, no problems at all, no changes I want to make. "4th generation", LOL! >Can you >elaborate on your friendâs story of putting in an extra couple thousand >bucks and still having problems? Not my friend, just something I know about. The heating arrangements, as such, are inadequate, added insulaion doesn't help much, it still doesn't get hot enough, some bits broke, they've changed a lot of the valves and so on, changed a few things with the methoxide mixer, and so on and on it seems, and there are several indications that they're still not producing a top-quality product, which isn't very difficult at all. They should dump that thing and start again, IMO. Best Keith >Eva > >________________________________________ >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:12 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel] sound file: radio show interview: make your own >biodiesel > >Hello Chuck > > >I own a FuelMeister. It works great and is a well developed > >product. Rudi has been very helpfull. What is your problem? > >My problem? I don't have a problem. You do though. You have a very >short memory too. > >I recommended an archive search, and I'm not going to do it for you. >What you'll find if you can be bothered to do it yourself is a LOT of >valid criticism of the FuelMeister, of Rudi and of the very bad >information at his website. The FuelMeister was aptly described as a >joke, a bad joke, a very expensive bad joke. > >This is all news to you? That would be strange. What you'll also find >is that all three, FuelMeister, Rudi, and website, were defended by >you, and only by you I think, but not defended at all effectively - >AND that what you didn't say then, and aren't saying now, is that you >sell the things. So what's the problem? You are, partly. > >The FuelMeister is still a bad joke - $3,000 worth of junk. As for >its being a "well developed product", which was what you said last >time too, at least one person who bought one has spent another couple >of thousand on it, throwing good money after bad it seems because his >results still seem very questionable to say the least. > >And Rudi's website is still fraught with bad information. > >And I guess you're still trying to sell FuelMeisters and being >defensive about it. > >Keith > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Keith Addison > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] sound file: radio show interview: make your > >own biodiesel > > > > > > >http://evworld.com/view.cfm?section=article&storyid=687 > > > > > >You have to click on the Windows Media Player link. I am unable to > > >make the real player link work, though that may be my setup. > > > > > >Once you start listening, there is about 1 minute of worthless music, > > >and then the radio show begins. I'm listening to the interview now. > > > > > >I think the person interviewed has a web page here: > > > > > >http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/ > > > > Aarghhh! Rudi and his FuelMeister! And his website that's full of >nonsense! > > > > I strongly urge a list archive search for "FuelMeister", a thorough > > read of the results, and a ready supply of salt to apply to whatever > > Rudi might tell the radio. > > > > Best > > > > Keith ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! 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