Hello Randall >Terry, > >Why can't Al do video conferences instead of traveling, or is he simply too >"important" not to make personal appearances? Bet there are more than a >few people that traveled more than 20 minutes just to see/hear him speak. >What did that extra travelling by the audience, staff, promoters, >concessions people, security, law enforcement, etc contribute to overall >pollution instead of people being able to simply watching Al on TV or their >computer.
How do you equate GHGs to "overall pollution"? To keep it to GHGs, did you calculate the carbon emissions of the more than a few people you're betting travelled more than 20 minutes against the potential reduction in carbon emissions if they bought the message they went to hear, especially if they spread it? If you were planning such a media and publicity campaign would you choose video conferences or personal appearances? This is for an Oscar-winner, right? In America. >I bet he gets MUCH more money for making a personal appearance >than just a conference call or distributing a video. So he just does it for the money? Oh, well that's okay then, we can all buy another SUV. >He had the right idea >with his movie... > >But, I suppose the important and "inconvenient truth" in this matter is that >Al is a politician--period. Actions speak MUCH MUCH louder than words...and >that is why it is "ok" to attack (or at least seriously question) the >messenger's motives when the messenger is delivering an "ethical" >message--- His attackers also assume something of a moral high ground in delivering their message, why don't you also suggest examining their motives? >Otherwise you will need to bring back a bunch of "fallen" >televangelists. :-) IMO he is simply another person that wants (or needs) >to be heard and doesn't really HONESTLY care what happens as a result. Why do you conclude that? Make up your mind, is it the money or the personal attention he needs? Or both? >I >rank him up there with Jerry Falwell and any number of failed politicos. You mean Gore could just as well have left the stage arm in arm with Jerry Falwell as with Leonardo DiCaprio? Doesn't Jerry Falwell have slightly different views on global warming? According to AP Falwell just said global warming is "Satan's attempt to redirect the church's primary focus" from evangelism to environmentalism. Maybe he's just being subtle, he's just saying it's Satan's work rather than ExxonMobil's work because ultrarightwing Christian fundamentalists will relate better. I think your US party political views are leaking. Much more important than the global warming crisis is which wing of the US Business Party people should vote for, I guess. Well done AEI! LOL! Best Keith >---Randall > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Terry Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:00 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use > > > > Hi Fre, > > > > I attended Dr. David Suzuki's event in Kelowna 2 days ago and he mentioned > > that he travels with his family to the Okanagan every summer to pick > > cherries and I know that Dr. Suzuki was the first person in Canada to buy > > a > > Prius Hybrid car. So he probally uses the hybrid to travel to the > > Okanagan > > valley. As far as the environmental tour called, "If your were Prime > > Minister what would you do?" I am sure that he has to cover a lot of > > terrritory in a short period of time. > > > > The main issue is that both Al Gore and Dr. Suzuki are influencing alot of > > people which is the most important thing now. Time is important because > > 2007 could be the pivitol year to save this planet. > > > > Terry Dyck > > > > > >>From: "Fred Oliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use > >>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:40:30 -0500 > >> > >> > >> > >>Al Gore flew from Montreal to Toronto last week. I would have thought a > >>true advocate for climate change could have found someone with 1)maybe a > >>Smart car to drive him, 2)powered with biodiesel or some other renewable > >>fuel. David Suzuki is on a 50-city cross Canada tour and I understand he > >>is also flying everywhere. When does the medium (i.e. the messenger) > >>become more important than the message? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>From: Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>To: biofuel <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >>Subject: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use > >>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:57:43 -0800 (PST) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth': While telling the rest of us to cut back, > >>he uses 20 times more energy to run his house than everyone else. > >>http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659 > >> > >>Heated pools.electronic gates.gas lanterns in yard.and $30,000 a year in > >>utility bills. How do you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e? > >> > >>(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in > >>his > >>suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the > >>Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and > >>in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make > >>that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's environmental > >>hypocrisy. > >> > >>Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee > >>Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills > >>for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured > >>nearly > >>221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of > >>10,656 kilowatt-hours. > >> > >>"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I > >>wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. > >>"But > >>he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules." > >> > >>Scoffed a former Gore adviser in response: "I think what you're seeing > >>here > >>is the last gasp of the global warming skeptics. They've completely lost > >>the debate on the issue so now they're just attacking their most effective > >>opponent." > >> > >> > >>Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the Center's > >>figures, taken as they were from public records. But she pointed out that > >>both Al and Tipper Gore work out of their home and she argued that "the > >>bottom line is that every family has a different carbon footprint. And > >>what > >>Vice President Gore has asked is for families to calculate that footprint > >>and take steps to reduce and offset it." > >> > >>A carbon footprint is a calculation of the CO2 fossil fuel emissions each > >>person is responsible for, either directly because of his or her > >>transportation and energy consumption or indirectly because of the > >>manufacture and eventual breakdown of products he or she uses. (You can > >>calculate your own carbon footprint on the website > >>http://www.carbonfootprint.com/) > >> > >>The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to > >>offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local > >>Green Power Switch program - electricity generated through renewable > >>resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste > >>and > >>pollution. "In addition, they are in the midst of installing solar panels > >>on their home, which will enable them to use less power," Kreider added. > >>"They also use compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy efficiency > >>measures and then they purchase offsets for their carbon emissions to > >>bring > >>their carbon footprint down to zero." > >> > >> > >>These efforts did little to impress Johnson. "I appreciate the solar > >>panels," he said, "but he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a > >>heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's switching > >>out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he advocates." > >> > >>The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores > >>in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 > >>kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in > >>2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average > >>of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, > >>and > >>$640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages > >>out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 > >>in 2005. _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
