----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fairhurst" <rich...@systemed.net>
To: <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways



David Groom wrote:
Which seems to me to that you are agreeing with my point, that these
are derivative databases, not collective databases as you first argued.

No: one is a Derivative Database (ODbL) and the other a Derivative Work
(CC-BY-SA), but the combination of the two is a Collective Database or Work.


But as I said earlier, the ODbL seems quite clear that you cant make a "Collective Database" from anything other than the original database in unmodified form. Since neither of the two individual items are the original database in unmodified form, then I cant see how you could claim the resulting combination is a "Collective Database" as defined by the ODbL .

Regards

David

Derivatives have to be licensed under the licence of the original.
Therefore, they have all the freedoms afforded by that licence. Therefore,
they can be incorporated into Collective Works.

I don't think this would work for most countries. You couldn't usefully make
a Collective Work from CC-Germany and ODbL-France, for example, because
you'd want cross-border routing and that would mean the two databases are no
longer "separate and independent". But Australia is an island, intire of
itself, so the issue doesn't arise. It doesn't even have a Channel Tunnel to
worry about. :)

cheers
Richard



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