@Jo: I am going to send you the Calc file personnaly.. Another thing we should take into account for tagging "SUL" (Sens Unique Limité in french) are the different possibilities for cycleways: there is a difference between "marked cycleway", suggested cycleway, ... http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article786 et http://www.permisdeconduire-online.be/wegwet/afbeeldingen/wegwet18a.JPG (suggested cycleway) .
I think it would be more rational if we describe the cycleway with one tag (with cycleway=lane (pour marked cycleway) or cycleway=suggested, ... and eventually cycleway:left ) and, with other tag, describe the restriction for bicycle, cars, ... (maybe should we open another thread to discuss those matters) Julien > > > > @Jo and @Tim: I am not sure about the license and I was asking myself if I > > could use it or not... Actually, it's a friend of mine, who is also mapper, > > who told me he obtains this file from the city of Liege a couple of years > > ago. He could use it for maps from pro-velo, I think. I am going to clarify > > that with him, I think he is advised about this question of license but he > > did not told me explicitly the data were open. > > Well, depends on how he obtained that file. If it's an official document from > the city then you can basically do anything you want with it (just not sell > the document itself, but you can sell the information in it...) > > Also, this information is public anyway, since the city counsel has to vote > for the traffic rules in each street, and so there are official documents for > each street which you can ask. > > > @all: I don't like the tag cycleway=opposite too, for the same reason: it > > is confusing. But it is a lot more used than bicycle:oneway=no or > > oneway:bicycle=no. cycleway=opposite is used 17212 times, oneway:bicycle > > 673 and bicycle:oneway 1228. The question is: should we not change > > something because it is used many times? Or should we adopt tag habits we > > are consistent (FR: cohérent)? > > In Belgium the numbers are quite different: > > cycleway=opposite: 887 > > bicycle:oneway=*: 998 > moped_A:oneway=no: 192 > > oneway:bicycle: 192 > > > Does it matter if we have other rules than other countries? Of course not. > Most tags mean something different in different countries anyway, and access > tags are the prime example of that. (But there is no router that actually > makes a difference between two countries yet to interpret access tags) > > But we have to come to some agreement within our country of course. As said, > cycleway=opposite has its drawbacks and with above numbers it's obvious which > one to take between bicycle:oneway and oneway:bicycle. > > > May i, in my future screen, add both tags (cycleway=opposite + > > bicycle:oneway=no) ? > > I know that a few people do this to accommodate the routers and renderers for > now. I never like these fixes since they remove the incentive for these > programs to support the other tag. But you tag as you want, it certainly > doesn't do much harm if you tag them both. > > Greetings > Ben _______________________________________________ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
