This reminds me of "unsuitable for HGVs" which IIRC has been the subject
of debate in the past. One approach would be "hgv=unsuitable" meaning
"legally yes but not advised". That seems to be exactly what we need
here. Perhaps we could have "foot=unsuitable" for this path?
//colin
On 2016-12-05 18:03, SK53 wrote:
> I concur with "keep it in" and help provide information for routers to
> identify potential warnings.
>
> There are many similar issues for pedestrians which certainly should be
> mapped. For instance there are still many very hazardous unsigned pedestrian
> crossing points on dual carriageways (typically where a pre-existing right of
> way was bisected by the road). I noted several along the A45 from Northampton
> to Brackley last Saturday, and am still eternally grateful for the re-routing
> of a path which used to cross the A404 near Bisham. I was foolhardy to cross
> this once before the new route was opened. Another similar pedestrian safety
> issue are busy roads without verges or sidewalks. At least in the latter case
> the solution is adding sidewalk and/or verge tags which allows routers &
> renderers to avoid or highlight these less desirable possibilities.
>
> It seems rational to approach cycle routing issues in a similar manner.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 5 December 2016 at 16:31, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> It needs to remain. As it's clearly signed as a shared use path it's has
> authoritative standing.
>
> 'Dangerous' is purely subjective. Many people do 'dangerous' things such as
> drive too fast, take drugs or jump out of aeroplanes. OSM is not the place to
> quantify. Adding a 'falling rocks' sign to OSM is fine. Telling someone they
> can't go there because of those rocks is wrong. Your user has decided, based
> on experience, that he doesn't want to use it, which is fine, but he
> shouldn't dictate that others can't.
>
> What would benefit OSM is if the path was detailed more accurately.
>
> Are you Traveline?
>
> Cheers
> Dave F.
>
> On 05/12/2016 16:12, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Greetings
>
> At Stirling Corner, on the A1 in Barnet, there is a cycle way (hence also
> available for pedestrians) that goes around the outside of the roundabout
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/78315291 [2]). A cursory glance at
> satellite mapping shows it to be well defined, and marked. But it will also
> highlight that where you cross the southbound A1 to the south of the
> roundabout (and likewise the northbound A1 to the north) it is highly
> dangerous. You have to cross three lanes of traffic, and there is always a
> flow of some sort, either from the A1 or from the side roads.
>
> What is the right course of action here - leave it in, because it reflects
> what is on the ground, or take it out on safety grounds. This isn't an idle
> question - a user of my website has stated that it is dangerous to use, and
> has asked me to remove it. My conclusion was to leave it in, but as it cuts
> to what it is that is being produced here - an accurate cartographic
> representation of the world, regardless, or something a little different - I
> thought I would ask for views.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart
>
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