On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > Am 21.07.2013 20:18, schrieb Michal Migurski: >> Supporting official venues for orderly change is what the board should >> be doing, but is not. I would support the creation and use of a >> proposal/vote/implementation process for the community, even if the >> first proposal is just "be it resolved that Mapbox accepts >> responsibility for the visual design of OSM.org". > > I would find it very very difficult to subject superficial design > changes to a popular vote, these are matters of personal taste and work > flow and it is very unlikely that we could reach any kind of consensus > within a reasonable time frame, wit this thread. What would be nice if > we could get to a state where changing the visual appearance of the main > site would not be such a heavy weight task (at least not for the devs) > and could happen substantially more often than once in a decade.
It's a heavyweight task because there's no higher-level process to guide it, other than the one brought by volunteers. No strategy or goals from the foundation that would provide some rationale for a change and no decisions that would delegate someone to follow through on those goals. Bikeshedding is rarely a failure on the part of the bike shedders, more often a failure of strategy and leadership. The workings of our front page are most definitely not a matter of personal taste! > Now high level goals and to a certain point functionality is something > that, IMHO, is worth discussing with a large group, and we have ongoing > discussions that cover exactly such territory. Besides what has been > written here, there is a larger one on the German list about the > potential gamification of OSM which shows that such a step is not simply > a design question and definitely needs more community consensus if it > should be seriously considered for implementation. No kidding! Any consensus from the Germans? -mike. ---------------------------------------------------------------- michal migurski- contact info and pgp key: sf/ca http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk