Amita, re helper provider copyright. The header has been through two changes, one before i started on the project (see below), and one from Apache copyright to Apache license (me). I think the commit log comment below suggests we are right to leave it with the Apache license.
Kelvin. commit 375756 jboynes 07/02/2006 22:37:37 version of HelperProvider that uses JAR service lookup to find the implementation changed copyright on HelperProvider.java as this is a new implementation On 12/02/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In Rev. 620740 please find the changed license files and > sdo-api/HelperProviderTestCase.java. > > The question remains is - what shall be the copyright (and thus license) > for > HelperProvider.java from sdo-api. It is there in the > SDO_2.1.0_Java_source_FINAL.zip obtained from OSOA, but so far it was > having > ASF license. Need to understand the > reason behind that and what is the correct action for this release. > > Regards, > Amita > > On Feb 4, 2008 10:41 PM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Amita, > > > > thanks for the summary, and for working so late to kick this chat > off. > > As we also discussed in the chat I fear our numbers may have been > > diminished > > by a) the early time on the West Coast of the US and b) we could have > > perhaps started a top level thread on the ML to advertise it. So as we > > discussed, if you and I continue to do a pass on this during your > working > > day tomorrow on IRC (say 9am approx GMT?), I will offer a follow up IRC > > chat > > late this week that's at a convenient time for the west coast to offer > an > > opportunity for people to step up to the things we label "nice to have" > -- > > and of course any other points of the plan we come up with. > > > > Kelvin. > > > > On 04/02/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > There was an IRC chat where me and Kelvin participated on Feb 4th, > 7.30 > > > a.m. > > > PST > > > for SDO Java 1.1-incubating release. Below is the summary. > > > > > > 1) license files under distribution and sdo-api need to be > > > reviewed/corrected > > > as well as copyright text fro sources/resources under sdo-api need to > be > > > reviewed/corrected based on latest from OSOA and based on when the > > > source/resource > > > files are changed. > > > > > > 2) SDO Java will follow the same strategy of providing LICENSE files > > under > > > src\main\resources\META-INF as before > > > > > > 3) > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project > > > is the place to find all unresolved JIRAs list marked for > Java-SDO-next, > > > there are a few documentation/website update JIRAs fixed from this > list > > > (1026, 1531), all others marked as unresolved are still at same > status. > > > > > > 4) Went through the list one by one and covered first 6 JIRAs as > below- > > > > > > must have > > > 1293 - important, patch is available, need to review and apply the > patch > > > > > > > > > nice to have > > > 1862-workaround available in 1842 and no user issues on it so far > > > 1838-Amita will check the existing solution against the last comment > in > > > ASF > > > JIRA comments > > > > > > next release > > > 1725-the scope is big and better justice can be given in next release > > > > > > I will make the same update as above to the table in > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project > > > and will have 2 additional columns in it - analysis, release > > > scope(must/nice/next) which can be a handy > > > reference for somebody trying to pitch in and work on this release for > > > some > > > JIRA. > > > > > > Appreciate all help in getting all important JIRAs in this release > > > > > > Regards, > > > Amita > > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:41 PM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 04/02/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Apologies for a lengthy mail,but trying not to keep any > ambiguities. > > > > > Please > > > > > see all > > > > > **Question: > > > > > > > > > > Findings for license text and copyright text - > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15317.html > > > > > -> > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg16199.html > > > > > -> http://www.osoa.org/sdo/2.1/schemas/license.txt > > > > > So looks like the license text for all except sdo-api will be "as > > is" > > > in > > > > > svn > > > > > trunk like below - > > > > > i.e. for sdo-impl, tools, sdo-lib, sdo-sample, sdo-plugin > > > > > > > > > > > > correct, it's just the java files that are provided as part of the > > > > specification that are at issue here > > > > > > > > **Question: why tools-test does not contain a license file? > > > > > > > > > > > > The rule is that any downloadable archive needs a license file. > > > > tools-test > > > > does not result in a maven artifact, so the only time a user will > get > > > > anything to do with tool-test in an archive will be in the source > > > > distribution, which will be covered by the license file at the top > of > > > the > > > > source distro. > > > > > > > > **Question: tuscany sca Java provides DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, NOTICE > > > directly > > > > > under the module e.g. modules\binding-sca > > > > > why tuscany SDO Java provides these files under > > > > > module\src\main\resources\META-INF? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure of the SCA build structure, but we arrange for the > > license > > > > artifacts for the jars that are downloadable from maven to be in the > > > > archives meta-inf folder in this way. 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These were created within > > > Apache > > > > and therefore have an Apache license. > > > > > > > > I was misremembering how the license is carried in the > > > files/archives. So > > > > the LICENSE files we need to update will be under the distribution > > > > project, > > > > in src\main\release\src\LICENSE and src\main\release\bin\LICENSE in > > the > > > > portions that refer to the API files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one > > > > > or more contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file > > > > > distributed with this work for additional information > > > > > regarding copyright ownership. 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See the License for the > > > > > specific language governing permissions and limitations > > > > > under the License. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > amita > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 5:33 PM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Amita, > > > > > > apologies, on further detailed inspection I see that whilst > the > > > > thread > > > > > I > > > > > > directed you to was relevant, the resolution of the license text > > was > > > > > > documented at [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelvin. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15317.html > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04/02/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > When confirming for correctness of 3rd party license text, I > > > checked > > > > > the > > > > > > > below thread - > > > > > > > 1]http://www.mail- > > > > archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg05115.html > > > > > > > and got in summary the below guidelines - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Treatment of Third-Party Works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The term "third-party work" refers to a work not > submitted > > > > > directly > > > > > > > to the ASF by the copyright owner or owner's agent. > > > > > > > 2. Do not modify or remove any copyright notices or licenses > > > > within > > > > > > > third-party works. > > > > > > > 3. Do ensure that every third-party work includes its > > associated > > > > > > > license, even if that requires adding a copy of the license > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > third-party download site into the distribution. > > > > > > > 4. Do not add the standard Apache License header to the top > of > > > > > > > third-party source files. > > > > > > > 5. Minor modifications/additions to third-party source files > > > > should > > > > > > > typically be licensed under the same terms as the rest of > the > > > rest > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > third-party source for convenience. > > > > > > > 6. Major modifications/additions to third-party should be > > dealt > > > > with > > > > > > > on a case-by-case basis by the PMC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But still have a few questions about 3rd party license headers > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > context of below mail thread > > > > > > > and findings - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ML thread:- > > > > > > > 2]http://www.mail- > > > > archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03314.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Findings:- > > > > > > > in tuscany-sdo-api-r2.1 > > > > > > > 1> HelperProvider and NoHelperProviderException have ASF > license > > > > > > > and in test in same project - > > > > > > > 2>HelperProviderTestCase has (looks like some old IBM+ASF > > > license), > > > > > > > DefaultHelperProvider, TCCL1HelperProvider have ASF licenses, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These findings are a bit confusing against mail thread 2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also when checked Luciano's work on DAS in JIRA-620 for > license > > > > > headers > > > > > > it > > > > > > > is all for ASF licenses as DAS > > > > > > > does not contain any 3rd party code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, will you please see if there are some changes required in > 1> > > > and > > > > > 2>? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 5:52 PM, Amita Vadhavkar < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am going through all the samples to see if there are any > > areas > > > > of > > > > > > > > improvement, If anybody has spotted some areas or have some > > > > > > > > suggestions, please explain the details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 3:35 PM, Amita Vadhavkar < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about having an IRC on 4th Feb ,Monday, 7.30 a.m. PST? > > > > Please > > > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > free to suggest another time if this is not > > > > > > > > > convenient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008 4:55 PM, kelvin goodson < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping to have done a full pass through the JIRAs > to > > > be > > > > > sure > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > cover > > > > > > > > > > the most important ones. Maybe it would be good to > > schedule > > > > an > > > > > > IRC > > > > > > > > > > chat to > > > > > > > > > > get community input on what is important. We could go > > > through > > > > > > each > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > open JIRAs and see how people rate the importance and > who > > > > would > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > fixing things. That way we'd get a better picture of > > what's > > > > > > wanted. > > > > > > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > > would be a good time to do this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelvin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have worked on the comments for RAT report and added > > the > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > end of - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/RAT+Report. > > > > > > > > > > So > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > I go > > > > > > > > > > > ahead and correct the 9 files mentioned there to > include > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > header in > > > > > > > > > > > them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, what is the best way to ensure that the Ex:3rd > do > > > > > contain > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > correct > > > > > > > > > > > license text? > > > > > > > > > > > Any old mail ref. or any other documentation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 5:14 PM, kelvin goodson < > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Amita, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything unmarked needs checking to see if it fits > > one > > > of > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > categories. I only did the ones I marked up from > > > > > > > memory. Ex:IFF > > > > > > > > > > files > > > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > me ignored, but it must be clear from the rat > report > > > > > > submitted > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > release vote that thess files have been left as they > > are > > > > for > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can see this kind of thing in Tuscany-1171, and > > in > > > > > > previous > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > vote threads, where the RAT report is manually > marked > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelvin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the action for Ex.IFF - ignore? Also what > > TBD > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > xml > > > > > > > > > > > files > > > > > > > > > > > > > under sdo-tools-test which do not contain headers > - > > > i.e. > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > last section from RAT Report - Unresolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 4:35 PM, kelvin goodson < > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've marked up the Unresolved section. There's > a > > > job > > > > to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the instances marked with Ex:TCR is > > actually > > > > > > > such. We > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > need > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work out what to do to take account of the > > > > clarification > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the OSOA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > license > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that happened recently, that the files marked > > Ex:3rd > > > > may > > > > > > > need > > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be in line with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelvin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar < > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Kelvin, will look at all these points. > > > Also, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used rat-5.0.jar and got the report at - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/RAT+Report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see "Unresolved" section in it and give > > > > > comments > > > > > > > > > > about what > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appropriate to fix there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 3:56 PM, kelvin goodson < > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar < > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assuming name of the release as Tuscany > SDO > > > Java > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.1-incubatingand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keeping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ref. to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > old mail thread - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg27168.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am starting a new thread now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Site documentation:- I could gather a > > few > > > > > places > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > updates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be done. Please give your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if these seem fine or need something > > > > > more/something > > > > > > > > > > else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) why on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.htmlwe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Open CSA (SCA Standards) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is confusing and needs > investigating. I > > > > think > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transition from ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In which case the "Get Involved" is a link > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > "general" > > > > > > > > > > > menu > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > therefore is general to Tuscany. However, > > the > > > > > page > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > entitled > > > > > > > > > > > > > "SDO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Java > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Involved", yet seems identical to the > > "Get > > > > > > > Involved" > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuscany Home page's Community menu apart > from > > > the > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > that this > > > > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entitled "Getting Involved: Apache > > > Tuscany". I'm > > > > > sure > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own SDO Java getting involved page, and I > > think > > > > it > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > accidentally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overwritten at some stage. I guess we need > to > > > > look > > > > > at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > history and see if we can recover it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) changes in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlfor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new features, improvements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a bit confused here. I think maybe you > > have > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > separate > > > > > > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been merged perhaps. I don't think we > > want > > > > to > > > > > > > detail > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the FAQ page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1468 - Use HelperContext for scope > in > > > > > Tuscany > > > > > > > API > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1128 - Support attribute and > element > > > > with > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1359 - New SDOUtil: Upper and > lower > > > > bound > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > properties > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'isMany' is true > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CTS TUSCANY-1230 - Improvements to > > > > > > TypeConversionTest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I meant to mention in regards to > > your > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > posting is > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CTS is not part of an SDO Java release. We > > > > haven't > > > > > > ever > > > > > > > > > > > > "released" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CTS, since it's never yet seemed to make > > sense > > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > SDO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who want to use the CTS can download the > > source. > > > > I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is a respin of the kind of release we > > have > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > before, for > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SDO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Java runtime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can be added to it? Also do the above > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > JIRAs > > > > > > > > > > > > useful > > > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAQ, or mention in Release Notes will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be sufficient? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see now. Yes, release notes are > definitely > > > the > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlpage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not have menu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-project-code-structure.htmlno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu , old structure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are right, we need to add a section for > > the > > > > lib > > > > > > > > > > project and > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tools-test project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/getting-source.htmlno > > > > > > > > > > > menu > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > structure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again, yes, this doesn't reflect the move > of > > > the > > > > > api > > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > main > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sdo trunk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) developer guide - should we refer to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-development-guide.htmland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make SDO Dev Guide more complete? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think ideally we would incorporate some > of > > > the > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > content > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guide into an sdo guide. 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