Pertti, all,

1) This seems to be an old known problem (see e.g. [1])

2) I just tested 3.4.1 (LibO+AOO) - its already present there, so IMHO it's
inherited from OOo

3) an easy Workaround exists (go over Data > Sort, choose proper column
label Options)

So IMO the next questions are,
- how important is this bug?
- is there general agreement about a default behavior / column label
recognition algorithm?

Then the bug could be pushed to a higher prio / dev visibility.

Nino

[1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77681


Am 27.03.2015 um 11:38 schrieb Pertti Rönnberg:
> Tim Lloyd's comment is not acceptable!
> This is not a question of a (unpaid) programmer's likings or priorities --
> this is a serious question of Libre Office's liability,
> because both of the the sort buttons in the toolbar (asc & desc) give wrong
> results as well as there is no clear explanation why and how the sort command
> in Data=> sort must be "customized" if yopu want a correct result.
> 
> A spreadsheet program that cannot be fully trusted is totally worthless!!
> 
> These "bugs" are a result of very bad planning and an obviously total lack
> of control & testing of the programming before it was accepted
> as a feature in Calc and the complete LibreOffice suite.
> 
> Neither is this really not a "game" -- anyone who goes for to programming
> something for LibreOffice must feel the responsibility for the result -- as
> well as
> the controlling team (if any?).
> 
> The sort feature is a very important feature why these faults have to be
> corrected immediately
>>>    the function of both the sort buttons set to "normal" sort of a
> selected range
>>>    all selections set to blanc in Data=>sort=>options
> Pertti Rönnberg
> 
> 
> 
> On 26.3.2015 2:12, Tim Lloyd wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> while LO does allow a certain amount of customisation, at this point in
>> the game this particular menu option can not be changed.
>>
>> This then becomes a feature request, either
>>
>>  * change the default
>>  * allow the sort options to be customised
>>
>> Once a feature request is submitted it is really up to a (unpaid)
>> programmer to step forward and take on the action. I can't see this being
>> high on the programmer's list of priorities but it may be deemed an "easy
>> hack" which an aspiring young person could field.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/03/15 10:58, Richard VINCK wrote:
>>> Tim Lloyd
>>> Thank you for pointing this. Indeed, unticking it works then correctly.
>>> But it should be the default, and should remain unticked. (and should be
>>> more visible, as it is hidden in the Option tab)
>>> Can we make it as default?
>>>
>>> On 2015-03-26 00:42, Tim Lloyd wrote:
>>>> A quick look at the doco reveals...
>>>>
>>>> Range contains column/row labels
>>>> – omits the first row or the first column in the selection from the sort
>>>>
>>>> Untick this box and you are sorted.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> On 26/03/15 10:06, Wade Smart wrote:
>>>>> Hmm I just tried to sort going through the
>>>>> sort menu and I still cant get it to sort
>>>>> properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does numbers just fine though.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Registered Linux User: #480675
>>>>> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
>>>>> Linux since June 2005
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart <wadesm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> **cough cough** .. feature understood.
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Registered Linux User: #480675
>>>>>> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
>>>>>> Linux since June 2005
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan
>>>>>> <michael.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not
>>>>>>>> working.
>>>>>>> When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and
>>>>>>> was told "Not a bug" and "works for me" by those who have the power to
>>>>>>> close bugs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My argument was/is that if you use the sort arrows (as you have done
>>>>>>> here) then you're asking/telling LO to sort the selected rows with no
>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead it was deemed correct that instead, LO assumes the first cell
>>>>>>> found is used as a label regardless of any other settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This "feature" (*cough*) cost me a number of hours of work to get around
>>>>>>> and avoid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The argument is that since you can use the "Sort" menu option and change
>>>>>>> this behavior *for each sort occurrence* then there's a work around for
>>>>>>> the "feature" and we should be happy with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>    << MCT >> Michael C Tiernan. http://www.linkedin.com/in/mtiernan
>>>>>>>    Non Impediti Ratione Cogatationis
>>>>>>>    Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs
>>>>>>>     should relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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