On 3/27/15 8:01 AM, Nino Novak wrote: > 1) This seems to be an old known problem (see e.g. [1]) It's older than that by a bit, I reported it back in 2012 I think. (I'd have to hunt it down.) However, "known" isn't as accurate as we'd like if people seem to find this as "new" on a semi-regular basis. > 2) I just tested 3.4.1 (LibO+AOO) - its already present there, so IMHO it's > inherited from OOo Also, from my perspective, I'm not accusing/blaming those working on this for it having happened, it did, time to move on, now I'd like to get it fixed. > 3) an easy Workaround exists (go over Data > Sort, choose proper column > label Options) A point I'd tried to make back "then" but got no where with was that it's not an "easy" work-around when you have to do it multiple times over and over in the process of using a collection of data means you waste a *lot* of time during this "work around" which, when you have to do it multiple times, stops being easy and becomes long and tedious.
I have a spreadsheet of ~450 entries, one for each machine in a data center. Sometimes I have to sort it on the names, sometimes the serial number, sometimes the rack location, etc. In my cases, when I was building this list, to, EACH TIME, bring up the menu option, go and click off *AGAIN* the button to choose the second page of the dialog, click the "label" button, then click "Ok" *AGAIN* wasted a lot of time and introduced new places for me to trigger an error in the process when really, "assuming" the minimum choices was the correct approach. Maybe that's what we need, a button to set the sort options, just once to "smart" or "standard" meaning don't *ass*u*me* anything when trying to decide what to do with the data. > So IMO the next questions are, > - how important is this bug? > - is there general agreement about a default behavior / column label > recognition algorithm? > > Then the bug could be pushed to a higher prio / dev visibility. The "philosophical" arguments I'd like to make is that using the assumption of "lowest common expectation" (for lack of a better term) is that you assume the least number of optional choices that you can unless explicitly told otherwise. As someone previously stated, if I select/highlight a number of words in a word processor to effect change on them such as bold/italic/underline, I expect the operation to be done in the simplest of terms, I don't want you to avoid doing capital letters because that's an option somewhere I didn't expect. -- << MCT >> Michael C Tiernan. http://www.linkedin.com/in/mtiernan Non Impediti Ratione Cogatationis Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted