(Disclaimer: I only know Gradle from outside. I never used it more than 2 minutes, but I read some things about and saw a prez at our JUG.) Gradle has a very different approach: where Maven values sometimes not much flexibility at first sight (to improve build genericity, as already said), Gradle lets you change anything you want. The good thing is that Gradle comes with some standard process if you want to go Maven-style (meaning the standard fits your needs). But then you can plug whatever you want, the way you want, anytime you want (using Groovy scripting code).
By the way, that last statement is the kind of things that makes Gradle appear to Maven-fans as no-good. In fact, for the record, Maven 1 was using a scripting language (Jelly), and being able to clutter your build file with scripts is just a bad idea. About Maven coordinates, yes Gradle can use them. I seem to remember they're actually using Ivy as their dependency management tool. By the way, you can disable transitive dependencies, etc. http://gradle.org/docs/current/userguide/dependency_management.html#defineConfiguration Cheers 2012/9/10 KARR, DAVID <dk0...@att.com> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:43 PM > > To: users@maven.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Arguments for Maven vs. Gradle > > > > Moving from Ant to Maven is a change of attitude. > > You are right that Maven does make builds much more uniform. > > Once a project is set up, the next guy to work on it only has to write > > code and add dependencies, the rest of the environment is laid out. > > > > Never heard of Gradle so I can not compare them. > > > > Maven has a huge following and almost any library that you want to use > > has a Maven distribution available at Maven Central or in a public repo > > that you can connect to . > > Saves a lot of grief. > > > > If you go with Maven, get your own repo set up before you unleash the > > developers. > > Thanks. > > Not that I disagree with your overall conclusion, but I would point out > that Gradle makes it easy to specify dependencies through Maven > coordinates. I would assume that means it also handles transitive > dependencies, but I'm not sure. It's a good idea to "know your enemy", not > that I consider Gradle an "enemy" in any way. > > > On 09/09/2012 5:20 PM, KARR, DAVID wrote: > > > At the risk of starting a flame war, what are some arguments for > > Maven vs. Gradle? > > > > > > This is in the context of a change and risk-averse organization that > > currently has a large Ant build, although with some associated Maven > > builds. > > > > > > I see the advantages of Gradle as a much better Ant, but I would be > > concerned about losing the advantages of Maven, like better integrated > > tool support. > > > > > > One of the disadvantages of Gradle is the same as Ant, which is that > > it's very easy to have two people do similar things in a completely > > different way. Gradle makes it easier to reuse things, but it doesn't > > seem like it nudges you that hard in that direction. > > > > > > I can see the possibility of calling Groovy from Maven, but having > > that be Gradle code would require the Gradle runtime, and I don't see a > > "Gradle Maven plugin" yet (although I believe I've seen a "Maven Gradle > > plugin). Even if you could do this, I'm not sure it makes sense or > > provides significant value. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ron Wheeler > > President > > Artifact Software Inc > > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com > > skype: ronaldmwheeler > > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- > Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net > Sauvez un arbre, > Mangez un castor ! > nbsp;! > <users-h...@maven.apache.org> > <users-h...@maven.apache.org> >
