You will have to make your own assessment but most new projects I see in my customer base are moving over to gradle. It offers the same convention over configuration advantages of Maven but with some flexibility if you need it, plus a whole swag of benefits that are gradle specific. The dependency management story is practically identical to the maven world.
Cheers, Paul. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Baptiste MATHUS <m...@batmat.net> wrote: > (Disclaimer: I only know Gradle from outside. I never used it more than 2 > minutes, but I read some things about and saw a prez at our JUG.) > Gradle has a very different approach: where Maven values sometimes not much > flexibility at first sight (to improve build genericity, as already said), > Gradle lets you change anything you want. The good thing is that Gradle > comes with some standard process if you want to go Maven-style (meaning the > standard fits your needs). But then you can plug whatever you want, the way > you want, anytime you want (using Groovy scripting code). > > By the way, that last statement is the kind of things that makes Gradle > appear to Maven-fans as no-good. In fact, for the record, Maven 1 was using > a scripting language (Jelly), and being able to clutter your build file > with scripts is just a bad idea. > > About Maven coordinates, yes Gradle can use them. I seem to remember > they're actually using Ivy as their dependency management tool. > By the way, you can disable transitive dependencies, etc. > > http://gradle.org/docs/current/userguide/dependency_management.html#defineConfiguration > > Cheers > > 2012/9/10 KARR, DAVID <dk0...@att.com> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:43 PM > > > To: users@maven.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Arguments for Maven vs. Gradle > > > > > > Moving from Ant to Maven is a change of attitude. > > > You are right that Maven does make builds much more uniform. > > > Once a project is set up, the next guy to work on it only has to write > > > code and add dependencies, the rest of the environment is laid out. > > > > > > Never heard of Gradle so I can not compare them. > > > > > > Maven has a huge following and almost any library that you want to use > > > has a Maven distribution available at Maven Central or in a public repo > > > that you can connect to . > > > Saves a lot of grief. > > > > > > If you go with Maven, get your own repo set up before you unleash the > > > developers. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Not that I disagree with your overall conclusion, but I would point out > > that Gradle makes it easy to specify dependencies through Maven > > coordinates. I would assume that means it also handles transitive > > dependencies, but I'm not sure. It's a good idea to "know your enemy", > not > > that I consider Gradle an "enemy" in any way. > > > > > On 09/09/2012 5:20 PM, KARR, DAVID wrote: > > > > At the risk of starting a flame war, what are some arguments for > > > Maven vs. Gradle? > > > > > > > > This is in the context of a change and risk-averse organization that > > > currently has a large Ant build, although with some associated Maven > > > builds. > > > > > > > > I see the advantages of Gradle as a much better Ant, but I would be > > > concerned about losing the advantages of Maven, like better integrated > > > tool support. > > > > > > > > One of the disadvantages of Gradle is the same as Ant, which is that > > > it's very easy to have two people do similar things in a completely > > > different way. Gradle makes it easier to reuse things, but it doesn't > > > seem like it nudges you that hard in that direction. > > > > > > > > I can see the possibility of calling Groovy from Maven, but having > > > that be Gradle code would require the Gradle runtime, and I don't see a > > > "Gradle Maven plugin" yet (although I believe I've seen a "Maven Gradle > > > plugin). Even if you could do this, I'm not sure it makes sense or > > > provides significant value. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ron Wheeler > > > President > > > Artifact Software Inc > > > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com > > > skype: ronaldmwheeler > > > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > -- > > Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net > > Sauvez un arbre, > > Mangez un castor ! > > nbsp;! > > <users-h...@maven.apache.org> > > <users-h...@maven.apache.org> > > >
