VACList-Digest Saturday, July 21, 2001 Issue 7 Today's Topics: 1. 1967 Caravel 2. Re: Thoughts after a short Pacific NW trip 3. Re: 1967 Caravel 4. Re: question for Charlie Burke 5. Re: AC Replacement 6. Painting the Airstream 7. Re: 1967 Caravel 8. Re: Painting the Airstream 9. Re: AC Replacement 10. Re: Painting the Airstream 11. Argosy Paint Question 12. Re: Painting the Airstream 13. Recessed Dinette Table Supports ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message Number: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:31:08 -0400 From: "Majorie Smallfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 1967 Caravel If anyone can help me I would appreciate it very much. We are looking at a 1967 Caravel to buy and we need to know the weight of this trailer and the tongue weight as well. If anyone can help us it would be great. What would be a good vehicle to tow this with? We are newbies so please bear with us. Are the original books available for the trailer anywhere? Thanks Margie Smallfield ------------------------------ Message Number: 2 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:58:42 -0700 From: Dave Huffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Thoughts after a short Pacific NW trip My wife is the organization/volunteer/leader type, so our '67 Caravel has sat patiently, outing for the two of us for short trips only a few times, going out w/me alone for a week trip a couple of times. So my wife has finished her busy year as head of one of her volunteer organizations, we had a wedding to attend north of Bellingham, WA, about 230? miles from Longview, WA. Lois actually suggested we take the Airstream and "explore" the area for 4 days. As usual for me I hardly got the Stream outfitted for the trip, but we have managed to store the trip-stuff together. So we weren't really missing anything... we could enjoy the Stream. Ours is clean, polished a bit, but now Wriggly-gum-wrapper-shiny. Nevertheless, we got half a dozen or so compliments on it. (You all are aware of interest in AirStreams). We have had little leisure time in campgrounds as we usually have had a schedule to meet. This trip I caught a glimpse of campground comraderie when a neighbor chatted with me about AStreams and LandCruisers (our tow vehicle). While we chatted, one of the ladies of the 3 couples seated together brought out a pie. As Lois and I left for dinner, I called out the window: "Just what kind of pie is that?" A freindly reply called out, "Come on over, have a seat, and find out!" I hated to turn that offer down! Noise: We often boondock, but this was a WA state park (Larabee) w/both tenting and full-service trailer facilities. A pickup/trailer pulled into one of the long-slot tent areas I had eyed. But when we returned from a day of sightseeing, he had his noisy charging unit on. It was around 4:30 PM, maybe 5 -- time for a nap, maybe a drink for us. I walked the entire campground and there was no other noisy equipment running. I talked to the ranger who reported the "quiet hours" are 9-9PM... he could do nothing about the generator noise for 4 hours. As I approached the noise to have a word with its perpertrator, he turned it off. What a relief -- quiet, that is. Now we have discussed generators in this forum, but is it fair to run these other than a few hours -- maybe 10-2? It's not as if these folks HAD to boondock -- there were a few untagged full-service spaces open. The rates were $20 for full-service, $14 for "normal". Not really a great savings, and not one I'm willing to subsidize by allowing neighbors to pollute (noise pollution) my environment unecessarily. There is a road on the hillside right above the campground, a RR (geeze, Amtrack runs an actual TRAIN to Vancouver, BC now, rather than the bus they used to connect those two cities only a few years ago!). I found neither of these noise sources as bothersome as the drone of that generator. Other than that, a great trip. My wife is hungering for more. If any of you are venturing into this area, Larabee is a nice base to explore Bellingham (Old Fairhaven is really fun), surrounding Pacific Coast, Mt. Baker's magnificent rain forest. But, please, leave the generator off -- or run it a short while around noon? Huff ------------------------------ Message Number: 3 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:04:42 -0400 From: "Jim Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1967 Caravel Majorie, according to the Owner's Manual, the 1968 Caravel had a dry weight of 2340 and a tongue weight of 270. I imagine the '67 Caravel would be about the same. Hope this helps. Jim Greene ' 68 Tradewind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Majorie Smallfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 20:31 Subject: [VAC] 1967 Caravel > If anyone can help me I would appreciate it very much. We are looking at a > 1967 Caravel to buy and we need to know the weight of this trailer and the > tongue weight as well. If anyone can help us it would be great. What would > be a good vehicle to tow this with? We are newbies so please bear with us. > > Are the original books available for the trailer anywhere? > > Thanks > > Margie Smallfield > > > > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > ------------------------------ Message Number: 4 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:17:20 -0600 From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: question for Charlie Burke Tuna wrote: > Charlie - what's the name of your dealership, and where are you located? > > Tuna > Reno, NV > American Way RV Center, Boise, ID (800)345-6651 Thanks for asking. Charlie ------------------------------ Message Number: 5 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:19:40 -0600 From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AC Replacement Scott Scheuermann wrote: > Derek, If you want the condesate to run down the drain tube instead of > the side of your trailer you will need to get the A/C unit currently > used by Airstream (I believe that it is a Dometic Duo Therm) and > Airstream's pan for the A/C unit (available only from Airstream. Specifically the Penguin series by Duo Therm. The adapter pan will not fit under the Brisk Aire also by Duo Therm. Charlie ------------------------------ Message Number: 6 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:19:20 -0700 From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Painting the Airstream The inside that is... Is it OK to paint the interior walls of my '71 Safari? I think most of it is vinyl. The front area where the control panel is, has a large crack in it. I am going to try and patch it, but when I do I think it will need to be painted. I think it is made of fiberglass, so that should be ok to paint. I was just wondering about going ahead and paint the rest of the walls to make it cleaner looking. Does anyone know if the interior trim around the two front wrap windows are availble? Mine are so dried out and busted up I don't think they will last long even if I manage to remount them. -Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ eFax (508) 590-0302 ------------------------------ Message Number: 7 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:39:13 -0500 From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1967 Caravel I tow my '68 Caravel with a '98 F-150 with the small V-8, 5 speed manual transmission and 4.10 gears and I get 15 mpg at 50 mph. An automatic transmission wouldn't need the 4.10 gears, and probably the V-6 has nearly as much guts as the small V-8. The small V-8 has to run fast to produce horsepower which it does smoothly. I use a load equalizing hitch to keep truck and trailer level. I may have gone a little overboard for the Caravel with the 4.10 gears but now the truck is far more capable of moving farm machinery about when I need to do that with it. Gerald J. ------------------------------ Message Number: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:39:21 -0700 From: Pearl Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Painting the Airstream Tim Shephard .......I have no idea what the interior walls of my 64 soverign is but painted them several years ago. took more time to mask off everything that the actual painting time.....I used a 4" roller and a standard 8" one which made doing the curves easy.....I still like it and am not sorry I painted it. Pearl in so Cal > The inside that is... > > Is it OK to paint the interior walls of my '71 Safari? I think most of it > is vinyl. > > The front area where the control panel is, has a large crack in it. I am > going to try and patch it, but when I do I think it will need to be painted. > I think it is made of fiberglass, so that should be ok to paint. > > I was just wondering about going ahead and paint the rest of the walls to > make it cleaner looking. > > Does anyone know if the interior trim around the two front wrap windows are > availble? Mine are so dried out and busted up I don't think they will last > long even if I manage to remount them. > > -Tim > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ > eFax (508) 590-0302 > > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > ------------------------------ Message Number: 9 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:35:29 -0400 From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AC Replacement At 07:19 PM 7/20/01 -0600, Charlie wrote about AC drain pans: >Specifically the Penguin series by Duo Therm. The adapter pan will not >fit under the Brisk Aire also by Duo Therm. > >Charlie I have always "heard" that the drain pan not only was for the condensate water, but it was also necessary to distribute the weight across the trailer shell. Any truth to this? ________ Chris Bryant ------------------------------ Message Number: 10 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:50:47 -0500 From: "Keith and Jean Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Painting the Airstream Tim wrote...."Does anyone know if the interior trim around the two front wrap windows are availble? Mine are so dried out and busted up I don't think they will last long even if I manage to remount them." Tim, Just finished the job on my 1973 Argosy - mine had turned brittle and discolored from the sun evidently. I expect the trim is the same - about 1/4" on inside and 3/4" on back side. Ordered replacement trim from Inland RV - Greg. I ordered enough to replace around the front windows plus in my trailer there was an arch over the top just ahead of the door. Wanted to have it all match. The new trim was a little lighter than my old trim so it was good to do it all at once. Keith Williams 1973 Argosy Moline, Illinois ------------------------------ Message Number: 11 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:35:02 -0500 From: Mark Schick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Argosy Paint Question I am planning to re-paint my '73 Argosy 24 and would like to ask if anybody knows the brand and color code of the original paint, or what is recommended. The trailer is lite beige on top and a darker sand color on the bottom. Thanks for the help. Mark ------------------------------ Message Number: 12 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:04:19 -0700 From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Painting the Airstream I will check with inland tomarrow. Your molding sounds a little different from mine. In our Safari, the window molding for the wrap windows in a rectagular piece that is curved and has an inset to it. Very custom setup for the right and left sides. -Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ eFax (508) 590-0302 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith and Jean Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: [VAC] Re: Painting the Airstream > Tim wrote...."Does anyone know if the interior trim around the two front > wrap windows are > availble? Mine are so dried out and busted up I don't think they will last > long even if I manage to remount them." > > Tim, > > Just finished the job on my 1973 Argosy - mine had turned brittle and > discolored from the sun evidently. I expect the trim is the same - about > 1/4" on inside and 3/4" on back side. Ordered replacement trim from Inland > RV - Greg. I ordered enough to replace around the front windows plus in my > trailer there was an arch over the top just ahead of the door. Wanted to > have it all match. The new trim was a little lighter than my old trim so it > was good to do it all at once. > > Keith Williams > 1973 Argosy > Moline, Illinois > > > > > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > > ------------------------------ Message Number: 13 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:35:26 -0400 From: soule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Recessed Dinette Table Supports I'm building a convertable dinette with tubular steel legs for my '77 Tradewind and I would like to use table leg supports that are recessed into the floor. Does anyone know if it is safe to do this? That is, is there anything under the floor in this area that I would cut if I use these mounts. They are cast metal, about 2-1/2" dia and will project about 2" below the floor. They will be located on the centerline of the trailer and in an area that is 2' - 4' from the front end. I believe that the water tank is in the next bay aft, so that shouldn't be a problem. In the general area where the supports would be, there is an aluminum box that project below the belly pan that is about12" X 20" X 3" . I don't know what this is, but it sounds very hollow when I rap on it. Thanks for your help. Lincoln Soule ------------------------------ End of VACList-Digest #7 ************************************ To unsubscribe or change to a e-mail format format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text