such a pleasant reply... removed as in moved it out of the system folder... if you read the whole thing you would have seen that i have gotten rid of 'enablers' before with no problems..... you might also have noticed that i mentioned it was a powerbook duo... i couldnt have connected that harddrive to any other system... scsi laptop drives arent exactly common in my collection... nor is scsi hardware in general... or even other functional macintosh systems for that matter.... unless you count functioning as a doorstop (dead mac classic 2) starting the mac in 'scsi mode' would also be useless... considering i dont have a dock... (no dock = no scsi connector)
the point of this post was to show an interesting 'trick' of 'forcing' mac"os" to boot on hardware that it claims it cant boot on... and yes.. a linux box can access the hfs and hfs+ filesystems... but not without some sort of scsi controller especially if it doesnt have a laptop scsi connector... but forcing the "os" to boot didnt require any of this since i was able to move the file with the already installed "os" why the quotes? mac "os" uses a shared memory environment on memory mapped RISC hardware... hardly a stable environment... especially when a buggy 680LC40 is present... and considering all hardware functions are accessed through the ROM rather than controlled directly makes it even less of an "os" and more of just a UI front end... the only 'add-on' part of this "os" i didnt know much about was what an 'enabler' was... 'patch' would have been a better filename... heres another interesting tidbit of info... gutting 'apple talk' out of the system (something i have done many times) frees up nice amounts of ram... (even if part of appletalk is in rom... at least there isnt any part of it thats using ram) On 20/09/05, Liam Proven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/09/05, Samual Acorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > in an effort to speed up startup time and save ram i removed (among > > many other things) what seemed to be a useless file > > Removed? Removed how? If you actually deleted it, then frankly, you're > a damned fool, messing around like that in an OS you don't, by your > own admission, really know. > > If you just moved it out of the System folder or something, you could > have started the Mac in SCSI Disk Mode (Cmd-T at startup, IIRC), > connected it to any machine that understands Mac HFS format HDs, and > moved the file back again. You could have used a Windows PC running > MacDrive or something, a Linux machine with the right extensions in > the kernel, a BeOS box, in theory a PC running OS X86, or various > others. > > -- -- --sam http://mephitus.renamon.org/ "When you've done something right, no one will be sure you've done anything at all." -- Futurama -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" Send list messages to: <mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com