The Mini DIN8 was first seen on the Plus and persisted through subsequent Macs until the iMacs and blue and whtie G3s in 1998-1999. The ports were labeled as printer and modem.
The only Macs with 9 pin serials for printer and modem were the 128K, 512K, and 512Ke. The 512Ke was discontinued in September 1987, so support for 9-pin peripherals continued for a few years after the Plus came out. What the Plus DID have in terms of 9 pin serials was a mouse port. It wasn't like the printer and modem ports and is not interchangeable with those two. Keyboards connected with the phone jack on the front of the machine. The 512K, 128K, and 512Ke all had this port as well. Note that the last Pluses were made in October 1990 so the support for the mouse port continued into the early 1990s. In addition, the 9 pin serial connector was used to connect the mouse on the Lisa and the Apple II series (execpt the IIGS), although it was a card that was added on in all but the IIc and IIc+. This port had widespread useage from 1983-1993. Note that a mouse that was designed for, say, the IIe (some say Mouse IIe) will work on a Mac Plus. The SE and II introduced the ADB port, but only on the Macs. Months before the SE and II came out in March 1987 the Apple IIGS had ADB (back in September 1986). It also used the Mini DIN8s for serial. The cable here is not an 8 pin, but rather a 5 pin. It looks like an S-video cable and I read somewhere a long time ago that S-video cables can be used for ADB if a long cord is needed. I've just started reading into this mouse discussion with this post, but I'm assuming it's a Plus or earlier mouse (sometimes called "Mac Plus mouse"). If it does have an 8 pin serial and not the 5 pin that it probably is should it have a DIN connector then it's the first I've ever seen on a Mac that doesn't use a standard input port. Scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes they did, but it was a DB-9 serial port. The > mini DIN8 didn't come along > until the SE? Or Was it the Mac II? And what is it > doing on a mouse? > > My memory fails me. I used to know. > > Rick > > on 9/22/05 5:29 PM, Allan Hunter at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the > > serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until > > the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than > > that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember > > correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh > > did. > > > > Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse > > with serial port would be older than one with an > > ADB port. > > > > > > > > At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz > wrote: > >> ... now that would be interesting to know. > >> > >> What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I > don´t remember well. > >> > >> Therefore it would be that Kensington released > >> that as a way to use the device on both kind of > >> serial ports maybe? > >> > >> Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, > >> then? How old are we talking about? :D > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Juan Carlos De La Cruz > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc > >> http://jcdlc.blogspot.com > >> )O( > >> > >> > >> On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >> > >> I remember that now and appreciate everybody's > response. What do you suppose > >> the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can > find nothing on > >> Kensington's site. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> > > > -- > Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> > and... > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com > | Enter To Win A | > -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 > | Free iBook! | > > Support Low End Mac > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > Vintage Macs list info: > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: > <mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> > To unsubscribe, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > iPod Accessories for Less > at 1-800-iPOD.COM > Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal > www.1800ipod.com > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
