lol. I love the outrage! Such drama. However simple reality is no one, and I mean no one, knows the facts on the ground. Was it an overreaction? Sure, most likely, but perhaps there is more to this than meets the eye. Maybe the kid was spouting islamic stuff.
Remember columbine, people. Think of all the people who blame the teachers there for not doing anything. How about more support for our educators, here, they are caught in a very very hard spot - between over reacting and under reacting. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I think that the value system of the so called scientists and journalists > that were involved in the P-F discrediting episode is inconsistent with > what Jed implies they possessed--in other words scientist and journalist > values. > > It seems to me they had values of capitalists and money grubbers and > little, if any, scientist and journalist values. Their values were to > cover up nature's real face and spread false ideas. They were not at > fault. They were simply acting in their best interests and according to > their values. Lies and propaganda were appropriate actions based on their > values. And the acceptance of such values has not decreased in the > corporate world and independent scientific community, but it has increased > with time IMHO. > > They were vassals of the "science kings" and did not want to kill the > goose that gave them their golden eggs. > > I think this undesirable value system is a political issue that should be > addressed--the sooner the better for civilization. Gay marriage does not > hold a candle to the importance of this issue in my mind, yet it seems to > get more attention in the press and by politicians--what a travesty. Again > it is consistent with journalist and political values unfortunately. > > Bob Cook > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 6:58 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts > > Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> The problem of cold fusion was incompetence of the particle and plasma >> physicist in calorimetry. >> >> These people were in fact not totally incompetent, just not enough to >> understanf Fleischmann&pon and trust calorimetry, but too much to be modest >> and not to imagine artifacts from their armchair. >> > > I agree. > > I think there was plenty of blame to go around: it was not only the fault > of the science journalists or the physicists. However, I think a larger > share of the blame goes to science journalists and especially the editors > of Nature magazine. In an academic dispute you will find scientists lining > up on both sides, including incompetent scientists to pontificate about > things outside their own expertise. A journal such as Nature or Scientific > American should make an effort to present both sides of the dispute. That > did not happen with cold fusion. > > As Mike Melich says, to this day, the US is letting the editors of Nature > decide our energy policy. > > - Jed > >
