laugh: http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-wozniak-in-jail-fake-bomb-2011-10
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any reasonably cautious person would say this thing looks like a hoax > bomb: > http://www.wired.com/2015/09/heres-bomb-clock-got-ahmed-mohamed-arrested/ > > > Making something that LOOKS LIKE A BOMB is a felony. It's akin to > shouting fire in a crowded theatre. Again, I think the teachers over > reacted a little, but I think it fell within a not so completely unexpected > range of reasonable reactions. > > The only thing they screwed up on was letting the kid get photographed. > He's 14. There's no reason this needed to go on the internet and > permanently harm him. > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> I will say one thing - the one thing I think everyone completely missed >> was that there should not have been a picture of the kid in handcuffs and >> it should have been handled much more discretely. The over reaction can >> be excused, but it should have been done very very quietly. That can not >> be pardoned and I wish everyone would focus more on that so future >> educators wouldn't make the same mistake. >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> lol. I love the outrage! Such drama. However simple reality is no >>> one, and I mean no one, knows the facts on the ground. Was it an >>> overreaction? Sure, most likely, but perhaps there is more to this than >>> meets the eye. Maybe the kid was spouting islamic stuff. >>> >>> Remember columbine, people. Think of all the people who blame the >>> teachers there for not doing anything. >>> >>> How about more support for our educators, here, they are caught in a >>> very very hard spot - between over reacting and under reacting. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think that the value system of the so called scientists and >>>> journalists that were involved in the P-F discrediting episode is >>>> inconsistent with what Jed implies they possessed--in other words scientist >>>> and journalist values. >>>> >>>> It seems to me they had values of capitalists and money grubbers and >>>> little, if any, scientist and journalist values. Their values were to >>>> cover up nature's real face and spread false ideas. They were not at >>>> fault. They were simply acting in their best interests and according to >>>> their values. Lies and propaganda were appropriate actions based on their >>>> values. And the acceptance of such values has not decreased in the >>>> corporate world and independent scientific community, but it has increased >>>> with time IMHO. >>>> >>>> They were vassals of the "science kings" and did not want to kill the >>>> goose that gave them their golden eggs. >>>> >>>> I think this undesirable value system is a political issue that should >>>> be addressed--the sooner the better for civilization. Gay marriage does >>>> not hold a candle to the importance of this issue in my mind, yet it seems >>>> to get more attention in the press and by politicians--what a travesty. >>>> Again it is consistent with journalist and political values unfortunately. >>>> >>>> Bob Cook >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 6:58 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts >>>> >>>> Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> The problem of cold fusion was incompetence of the particle and plasma >>>>> physicist in calorimetry. >>>>> >>>>> These people were in fact not totally incompetent, just not enough to >>>>> understanf Fleischmann&pon and trust calorimetry, but too much to be >>>>> modest >>>>> and not to imagine artifacts from their armchair. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>> I think there was plenty of blame to go around: it was not only the >>>> fault of the science journalists or the physicists. However, I think a >>>> larger share of the blame goes to science journalists and especially the >>>> editors of Nature magazine. In an academic dispute you will find scientists >>>> lining up on both sides, including incompetent scientists to pontificate >>>> about things outside their own expertise. A journal such as Nature or >>>> Scientific American should make an effort to present both sides of the >>>> dispute. That did not happen with cold fusion. >>>> >>>> As Mike Melich says, to this day, the US is letting the editors of >>>> Nature decide our energy policy. >>>> >>>> - Jed >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
