Lennart, Many of us sounded different before. It has taken us awhile to get more information about the situation (e.g., negative replications galore, repeated patterns of egregious mistakes made by Rossi / the people he chooses to conduct "tests").
I very much understand the desire to believe Rossi. Those of us who have changed our minds about the situation have not arrived at this position easily. I think Jed cares about the truth and hates that the situation has turned out the way it has. This is not what I would have ever expected a year ago. It is a sad time LENR. We need not wait long. It will be interesting to see IH's response to the lawsuit. Jack On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:41 PM Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > Jed - nobody but Rossi has a claim with IH. > I think you need to tell what you know and how that makes you so sure > about the situation. I still do not agree with the way you have thrown > Rossi under the bus. Not long ago you sounded different. You have other > info you need to present it or your say is just BS, > > Best Regards , > Lennart Thornros > > > lenn...@thornros.com > +1 916 436 1899 > > Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and > enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I forgot to mention the Japanese ( I think Misuno) R&D work. They are >>> not above spoon feeding. They even pay as a dessert course. I trust you >>> remember your job as a consultant on calorimetric measurements for their >>> experiments. >>> >> >> That has nothing to do with the Japanese government. Mizuno has been >> retired for a decade. He did that with his own money. The government knows >> nothing about it. >> >> >> >>> As I recall Dave Robertson with my input finally convinced you that >>> the ambient air temperature had an influence on the water cooling system >>> temperatures in the Japanese tests. So much for the adequacy of HVAC >>> knowhow. >>> >> >> You did not convince me of anything. As I wrote in the first version of >> the report, a calibration is needed. Mizuno agreed with me. It took him a >> few months to do the calibration. As soon as he did, the problem was >> apparent. That is what I wrote: >> >> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJreportonmi.pdf >> >> This was his mistake, his problem, and his lack of HVAC equipment. I will >> grant that I should have seen it earlier, but I did say we need a >> calibration to be sure. >> >> >> >>> You have a short memory, if you think the Government’s opposition to >>> cold fusion is “simply absurd.” >>> >> >> As I said, some factions oppose it. However, nearly all funding for cold >> fusion from 1989 to the present has come from governments, including the >> U.S. government. The would have been forgotten long ago if it were not for >> government support and funding. You can confirm that easily. >> >> Governments have spent millions, and they have published their reports. >> Some of the best research was done with government money at Los Alamos and >> China Lake, and the Italian ENEA. SRI was funded by DARPA. To suggest that >> these agencies and researchers are also secretly plotting to discredit >> Rossi or to fool me is absurd. Rossi has discredited himself. Time after >> time, he has failed to meet his obligations, or do what he said he would >> do. He promises to do a test and then reneges. Then he becomes furious >> because the people who agreed to fund him based on the test pull out. >> >> To suggest that I.H. spent $11 million and now for some mysterious reason >> they are lying and claiming it does not work is utterly absurd. It is >> crazy. They want it to work! Why would they spend all that money if their >> purpose was to discredit him? They could have ignored him. He would be long >> gone by now. They did everything they could to make it work. They gave >> Rossi all that he asked for. They were prepared to give him $89 million >> more. If it worked, they would be thrilled to give him the money. But he >> failed to show any sign of excess heat, just as he failed so many previous >> tests with other private venture capitalists, and with the Navy, NASA and >> others. >> >> I.H. will get nothing out of the deal. No intellectual property. Nothing. >> Because they did not pay the $89 million. If they actually thought it >> worked, why would they turn their backs on it now, and write off the $11 >> million? >> >> There is no intellectual property in any case, because the gadget does >> not work. >> >> Everyone else working with I.H. agrees with me that they are honest, >> knowledgeable, they offer generous terms, and they stick with the >> researchers through thick and thin. Only Rossi claims they have been unfair. >> >> - Jed >> >> >
