Jed, if I understand you right the world is full of idiots and scammers and
potential jailbirds.
All technical skepticism you have been provided are done by people without
common sense.
You obviously have more information than anyone else (only from IH?) and
that means your opinion is the one that makes sense.
Although you do not say which info you have. You just say others are a
little stupid or full-blown idiots for even questioning your statements.
It is a wonderful world. It is totally surrounded by mirrors. Only showing
the glory.
religion comes to mind.


Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899

Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)


On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote:
>
> I accept your claim that 1MW in an un-ventilated, insulated room would be
>> fatal.
>>
>> But that is not the case : a 30,000 CPM is sufficient to ventilate it,
>> and there is a fan (of similar dimensions to one particular example) on the
>> roof. (Plus convective loss, which would reduce the need for ventilation).
>>
>
> Alan, you are missing the point!! Please read carefully:
>
> Yes, if there is a 30,000 CPM fan in the customer room, and yes if it is
> running the temperature will not go up. THEREFORE, in order to prove the
> heat is real, Rossi has to show the I.H. expert this fan. The expert has to
> measure the air temperature and flow with an HVAC tool such as this one:
>
> http://www.tequipment.net/ExtechAN200.asp
>
> This confirmation is essential because Rossi's own calorimetry shows no
> excess heat.
>
> This confirmation would be essential in any case, even if Rossi's
> calorimetry showed excess heat. No one is going to write a check for $89
> million without taking every reasonable step to make sure the heat is real,
> and this is an important test to confirm that. You want to measure heat at
> the boiler, heat coming from the industrial equipment, and heat removed
> from the room by the ventilation equipment. These should be in reasonable
> agreement.
>
> All large HVAC equipment has to be periodically tested for safety. When
> they do these tests, they measure the COP of the boilers, and they measure
> how well the chimney and fans are working. Anyone thinking of paying $89
> million will demand the same kinds of tests.
>
>
>
>> Rossi presented no calorimetric data to Lewan (see my separate thread), .
>> . .
>>
>
> I heard he did, but I could be wrong about that. Rossi quoted enough
> numbers to allow a calculation of the fluid temperature. The numbers he
> quoted were the same as the sample I analyzed.
>
>
>
>> Rossi filed his contract with IH with the court.  See sections 3(c) and 5
>> . . .
>>
>
> No, he did not. He is a fraud. His own data shows that his machine does
> not work. He tried to cover up additional proof of that by preventing
> access to the customer site.
>
>
>
>> Rossi says  (and will presumably produce in court) that IH and JM signed
>> off on a strict separation (double-black-box) policy.
>>
>
> JM is a shell company made by Rossi's lawyer. Their agreements mean
> nothing. Rossi had access to the facility.
>
>
>
>> There is NO evidence at all that ERV Penon is "Rossi's" man.
>>
>
> Yes, there is. He is also a certified idiot. If he sticks around in the
> U.S. he will be twice an idiot, because he will probably end up in jail.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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