Clearly all of the ‘inside the box’ ideas cannot possibly explain the EM Drive thrust, that’s the interesting bit, oh no ‘bits’ are inside the dang box as well… now what?
From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons As I mentioned in my previous post, if you want to see how the photons can leak out, just have a look at the Fabry-Perot etalon. At resonance it is a high Q filter, even though the boundaries are highly reflecting. But, photonic leakage still doesn't explain the measured Shawyer EM drive thrust. The Shawyer tests are showing 0.3-0.9 mN/W of thrust, but photonic thrust is only 3E-6 mN/W, a ratio of >100,000! Interestingly, Shawyer is also quoting present device Q's of about 50,000 which makes his thrust on the same order as Q x photonic thrust. On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 8:12 AM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com <mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com> > wrote: Well, particles (electrons, protons, atoms, bucky balls, ignored cats) fired at a screen still produce an interference... So maybe protons could tunnel through a barrier if there is a wave from another proton that interferes? Could this be how tunneling works? On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> > wrote: Oops… obviously, that should read “photon” instead of “proton”: If photons [not protons] can become paired and out-of-phase due to some kind of cavity resonance effect, such that one result of the pairing is that they can escape metal confinement, then almost every citizen is at risk from microwave ovens. If you are old enough to remember Ralph Nader and the Corvair, another low point from that era was the microwave oven scare. Supposedly, this was debunked, but now … who knows. There certainly could be oven configurations which unknowingly promote photon-pairing more than others. Recently, there are reports of ovens with plastic windows, instead of glass windows, melting. This could be due to the spacing in the see-thru metal grids… who knows?
