I think we LENRers have too many preconceptions about the mechanism. I am 
admittedly clueless.


The large billet with its conditioned fields seems to be the central item. 
There were three sets of orthoganol windings. Presumably a signal was admitted 
to one or two of them and amplified power  coming from the third winding.


It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic 
interactions.


________________________________
From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:27 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon


I think we are approaching the critical point here -and if there is no 
remainder of a transmuted element or production of particles in use, then what 
are we left with?  Sounds like Sherlock Holmes observation about ‘whatever 
remains, however incredible, must be true”.



I would think that the lifespan of a magnetized structure with opposing fields 
forced on it would be limited ( if all south poles met in the middle).







>From what Brian Ahern said, the magnetic billet he used ran out of energy 
>after two years. If this depletion is the case, then there must be some 
>consumable involved in the power production process. It is my belief that 
>there is a single cause for LENR. This cause involves transmutation and the 
>resultant transfer of energy from the nucleus during the LENR reaction.



The whole cloth production of electrons in these various LENR systems must be 
caused by the release of mesons from the nucleus.



Brian Ahern should test a small piece of this magnetic billet to see if he can 
detect any transmutation that has occurred in it.



On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Chris Zell 
<chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:

When all is said and done, wouldn’t it be true that there is a choice as to 
considering the primary source of these energies?  Either you are removing 
energy primarily from nuclei – and thereby transmuting them into something else 
(which preserves energy conservation/TD)



Or you’re removing energy primarily from electron spins or orbits – without 
transmutation of the nuclei – and that contradicts conservation/TD.

I don’t see how this gain would be otherwise – and if derived from spin or 
orbit, then non-rotary energy as jitter/ZPE would be eliminated as the source.  
An exception to TD and such if therein………


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