>From Mr. Hollins:

> Considering that the other person banned has already been
> reinstated after asking Bill directly and saying he won't
> do it again, and the fact that Jed said,

>From Jed:
>>> I did not realize that people there are uninterested in the
>>> politics of cold fusion.
>>> Since that is my main area of expertise, I do not have much
>>> else to contribute, so I don't see much point to rejoining,
>>> even if he lets me.

> Is him [Jed] saying, well hell, if you won't let me post
> politics, im just not going to post. That is dead on him
> saying, I am taking my ball and going home.  It is him
> saying, well hell, if you expect me to actually follow the RULES,
> I'm just not going to be here.

I believe you are conveniently reinterpreting Jed's comments to craft
your own vision of Jed, implying that he is behaving like a sulking
child for not getting his own way. I think it is inaccurate, extreemly
so. Please also note that Jed stated "politics" AND "cold fusion".
>From what I can tell Jed is acknowledging the will of the majority -
if that IS the rule of the majority, which IMO is still under debate.
This is not the actions of, as you appear to be implying, a sulking
child.

> He was not expelled, he was sat down for a time out, and like a
> 5 year old that refuses to sit in the corner for 5 minutes and
> think about what he did, and say he won't do it again, remaining
> apart from this list is HIS choice.
>
> He then, at the end, pokes at Bill Beaty (thought I knew
> him...) Becuase Bill did the unthinkable and actually applied
> the rules to him same as everyone else.  The shock!  The Horror!

As I've stated before, Jed, in my view, has been caught up in Mr.
Beaty's temporary time-out ban due to no fault of his own. It's as if
Jed got caught up in a form of collateral damage as compared to, as
you seem to be claiming, deliberately disobeying Mr. Beaty's rules. I
can not stress enough times that Jed had absolutely nothing to do with
the garbage that ensued when the "grok" persona arrived on the scene.
You seem to be implying that Jed deliberately and consciously chose to
disobey Mr. Beaty's rules, and as such, deserves his "time out" and a
measure of discipline.  From what I can tell it probably never crossed
Jed's mind that he was disobeying Mr. Beaty's temporary ban. Why
should Jed have even considered this, since he had nothing to do with
the "grok" persona and all the garbage this persona helped stir up.
Jed was simply doing what Jed always does: Posting a cold fusion
related topic, which included personal commentary concerning the
politics that are associated with the controversial subject. From what
I can tell Jed prudently avoided all interactions and communications
related to the "grok" persona. In my view, Jed should not be penalized
nor vilified for posting precisely the same kinds of quality subject
material he has always posted, including cold fusion and the related
politics associated with cold fusion. IMHO, Jed's posts are both
insightful and valuable.

I think it would be a great loss to Vortex-l if Jed decides to make
his enforced temporary band a permanent one.

I hope Jed chooses to stay.


Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

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