"Slowly dying" should not be expected to generate the effect.

The capacitance apparently increasing on the death of the plasma is curious.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Kyle Mcallister
<kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com>wrote:

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> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Kyle, nice work as always. Couldn't the plate (the support
> > of the net
> > charge) be simply the inside surface of the glass tube, and
> > the plasma
> > be just the conducting "wire" leading to that plate? In
> > this case,
> > suppressing the "wire" would also stop your oscillator
> > wouldn't it?
> > But it wouldn't change the ch
>
> Might be, but the 'plate' must be some conductive material, perhaps a thin
> layer of the plasma, in order to act as a capacitor. AFAIK, there's no way
> to make a conductorless capacitor simply by having opposite charges on sides
> of a chargeable material. Or is there? It'd certainly be interesting.
>
> I did a follow up test, pulling the filament 6V supply and letting the
> plasma slowly die; the frequency of the relaxation oscillation slowly
> *decreased*...as if the capacitance of the tube were increasing. There were,
> however, interspersed low-level oscillations of a much higher frequency.
> Could this be evidence that the plasma 'wire' as you call it was no longer
> effectively allowing for charge to accumulate and be withdrawn from the
> inner surface of the glass?
>
> Further test: replacing the 15k limiter with a 47k limiter cut the
> oscillation frequency in half. Again, as if the capacitance were increased.
> 100k barely lit the tube, the oscillation was very noisy and unsteady...but
> lower in frequency still. What do you think? Is the effective capacitance
> being increased in some way, or is something else happening?
>
> > Michel "the static"
>
> Hehe, I'd never call you that in a bad way. Hmm... matter of fact, it
> sounds like something from the 'days of old, when knights were bold.'
>
> "And so it came to pass that Michel the Static did journey forth to bring
> knowledge to denizens of the land... and there was much rejoicing."
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