At 11:28 AM 12/31/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
From Ashfield:
...
> ... I am puzzled by your [Jed's] statement that you have spoken to large
> investors who confirm the E-Cat works
That certainly is an intriguing statement coming from Mr. Rothwell.
Jed has said things like this many times. It's
obvious that there are people convinced by Rossi,
but what it means that they "confirm" that
Rossi's device works is unknown. What did they
actually observe? Jed may know, but this is
ultimatey hearsay. It may be enough to convince
Jed, because he knows whom he is talking about,
and their reliability and caution, or, what would
be more important *what they actually observed*.
What we also know is that it is possibe for a
highly knowledgeable observer to see a Rossi
demonstration, and to walk away convinced that
the thing is real, and yet the demonstration was
no, on review, conclusive. Not only were certain
reasonable possibilities overlooked, it seems
likely, from evidence we have, that those
possiblities were actually happening. I.e., there
was overflow water, not just steam.
(But we can't be sure.)
Whats frustrating about all of this, at least
from my perspective, is the fact that we had yet
to see anything from Rossi that seems to be even
close to be considered a commercial product. All
Ive seen (and read about) has been nothing more
than a lot of hot air. Granted, there seems to
be tantalizing evidence and lots of grandiose
promises coming from Rossi. However, what is
significant is that Rossi never allows his
tantalizing evidence to be independently
validated that that certainly puts the kibosh
on his credibility, and righty so. Maybe Rossi
will finally pull a rabbit out of the hat. I
sure hope so, but who the hell knows. I sure as hell dont.
Right. We don't know. Rossi promised the moon. It
was obviously flamboyant and extravagant. Why a
megawatt power plent? Why make it so big? Rossi
could sell investigational devices, unapproved
for general use, like hotcakes, if they would
just do what he's claimed he could do.
The standard explanation, Jed makes it, is he's
crazy. However, "crazy" doesn't increase my
confidence! Crazy people will sometimes lie and
cheat. It is possible to arrange truly convincing
demonstrations, if the inventor can control the
conditions and doesn't mind a little fraud. It's
all in a good cause, after all. We'll have the
real thing by next month, so it won't matter if we fudge a little this time.
Real inventors can think like that, and it isn't
necessarily illegal! Depends on what *investors*
actually see. But if he's crazy, there goes all
restraint against defrauding investors!
The only conclusion that makes any sense to me
is to speculate that these unnamed investors
(who presumably have confirmed the fact that
there really is something to Rossis e-Cats),
are doing everything within their power to make
sure that Rossi works out the flaws before
potential competition catches wind. One of the
best ways to help ensure that they stay in first
place would be to continue to insinuate to
potential competition the impression that
Rossis organization is highly flawed, or worse,
fraudulent. That seems to have been easy to
accomplish! ;-) Dont bother looking into the
matter. Move along
move along
nothing to see here.
Yeah, we've figured that one out. And I don't see
a way to distinguish the difference between a fake Rossi con and a real one.
There is one way to deal with it. Make it
dangerous. Vigorously puruse alternate research.
Rossi has no patent rights on secrets. If his
patent requires a magic sauce, it's dead.
Again, Im left with the assumption that there
must still remain serious flaws and impediments
to the commercialization of Rossis eCats. Will
Rossi work out the flaws before the competition
finally catches wind? It would appear that Mr.
Rothwell doesnt think so. History may prove him right.
My crystal ball is here somewhere, I know it! I
really need to clean this place up!