The Gilman machine appears aligned North and South. The building it is housed in is parallel to "600 East Rd."
https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&q=1793-1795+N+600+East+Rd,+Gilman,+IL+60938&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x880daff58a57d933:0xe98a8990679a2e17,1795+N+600+East+Rd,+Gilman,+IL+60938&gl=us&ei=RaxIUvHcGYqo2wWnoYBA&ved=0CCsQ8gEwAA This is from looking at "Foto Oficial 07". The "back" of the machine is on the East wall, lengthwise (and longitudinally) running N-S. - Brad On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > The initial momentum of the pendulum does not have to come from the > rotation of the earth. > It could come from some chemical energy such as a muscle or a bomb. > > Harry > > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:13 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > >> You need to be thinking of momentum instead of energy Harry. The two >> are not interchangeable. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:39 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine >> >> Oh, now I get the point. >> You can't build a mechanism which extracts more energy from the rotation >> of the earth then you put into the mechanism. >> >> On the other hand, if the goal is to lengthen the day rather than >> generate useful energy, then >> such a mechanism would be considered useful. >> >> :- / >> >> harry >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ...and the rotational speed of the earth will descrease as a >>> consequence. >>> >>> harry >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Focault's pendulum could be used to extract energy from the rotation >>>> of the earth. >>>> >>>> harry >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. < >>>> hoyt-stea...@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're undoubtedly right. It makes me wonder if these simple >>>>> newtonian problems from dynamics 101 can be so >>>>> mind blowing, what's the chances of analyzing these bizarre non-linear >>>>> maxwellian/relativistic/quantum mechanical kinds >>>>> of problems. >>>>> >>>>> Hoyt >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:34 AM >>>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine >>>>> >>>>> As I found out some years ago when I spent a couple of months on this, >>>>> whatever system you come up with, when you actually go through the maths >>>>> it >>>>> comes up with the same answer, and that is that you cannot extract energy >>>>> from the rotation of the earth without reference to some external body. >>>>> You can come up with complicated systems that makes the maths more >>>>> difficult (our gyroscopes on railway tracks travelling between the pole >>>>> and >>>>> the equator was particularly 'interesting' to analyse. I'm not sure that >>>>> 15 years later my brain is still up to it, that why I get my son to do >>>>> it), >>>>> and that is what may have happened with the RAR machine. Its complexity >>>>> hides a mistake in the analysis of the forces and moments which made it >>>>> appear that it was possible to extract energy from the earths magnetic >>>>> field. >>>>> >>>>> Nigel >>>>> <http://www.avast.com/> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
