I am not sure what we are arguing about here.

Harry


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:41 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> >So if you could extract useful energy from the earth's rotation it would
> mean it is possible to violate the conservation of angular momentum.<
>
> Harry, are you trying to set a sneaky word trap?  Closed system is the key
> phrase here.  You can borrow angular momentum from one portion of the
> closed system to give to another portion but the overall angular momentum
> of the system is conserved.  Therefore, you can not take *angular
> momentum* from a closed system and turn it into heat.  You can take *angular
> energy* that is typically available in a rotating closed system and
> convert that into heat such as with a braking device.  That is different.
> The RAR device might somehow borrow angular momentum from the Earth for a
> period of time, but the complete system momentum will be conserved.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:02 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine
>
>  So if you could extract useful energy from the earth's rotation it would
> mean it is possible to violate the conservation of angular momentum.
>
>  Harry
>
>

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