So if you could extract useful energy from the earth's rotation it would
mean it is possible to violate the conservation of angular momentum.

Harry


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:48 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> As you say, the rotation rate of the Earth can be modified by devices
> located on the earth.  The issue is that whatever you use to modify that
> rotation must not change the overall angular momentum of the system which
> includes the Earth and that device.   For example the bullet fired by the
> gun below could change that rotation rate until it comes to rest again on
> the Earth.  Of course, the rate could be changed if the bullet does not
> return to the exact same location as it began if you really want to get
> technical.  Remember, it is angular momentum that is conserved, not
> rotation rate alone.  The location of the bullet at rest might lead to a
> different moment of inertia for the system.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 8:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine
>
>  Yes, but those laws do not prohibit the Earth's rotation from being
> slowed (or quickened) by means located only on the Earth. (e.g. on a
> smaller scale a satellite's spin can be slowed by using the built in
> control thrusters.) Those laws only say it is impossible to generate useful
> energy from the Earth's rotation by means only located on the Earth.
>
>  Harry
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:46 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Strange as it may seem, any activation force or torque is going to
>> result in a reaction that keeps the total momentum in balance.  When a
>> bullet is fired from a gun momentum is conserved since the gun is driven
>> backwards with an amount of momentum equal to that carried away by the
>> bullet.  The gun is much heavier than the bullet so it recoils at a far
>> lower velocity.  In this case the energy imparted upon the bullet is much
>> greater than that delivered to the gun since energy is proportional to
>> velocity squared.  That is a good reason to have a heavy weapon. :-)
>>
>> Angular momentum works in a similar manner.  The key thing to remember is
>> that both linear and angular momentums are conserved.  Any force you
>> generate is matched by a reaction force of equal and opposite magnitude.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 5:37 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine
>>
>>  The initial momentum of the pendulum does not have to come from the
>> rotation of the earth.
>> It could come from some chemical energy such as a muscle or a bomb.
>>
>>  Harry
>>
>

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