Axil -- How is a plasmon condensate promoting a heat generating effect
in NiH systems? What is the quantum-coherent quasi-particle (aka
soliton) system, connected through a "whispering quantum hall effect"
between nano-cavities (perhaps being drawn in by nano-whiskers), doing with
the hydrogen to produce observed excess heat? Fusing it? Fusion/Fission?
Why/how? Based on your systems engineering background, I can see why you
were drawn to such a complex and holistic model.

Another thing is, I'm not yet convinced of superconductivity for example
-- I'd be interested for sure to see someone measure NAE for a
mini-Meissner effect. That would be more convincing than just
Miley's measurements that has a number of different explanations beyond
achieving SC. I think you take SC as a given based on scant evidence. Or
Tesla-scale magnetic fields that I think you take as a given without proper
replication or surety of truth. Considering DGT likely botched a simple
demo last July, I'm not as confident in their technical know-how as I once
was.

Regards,
John


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> at this point, the idea of plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of
> faith & assumptions that I don't think are yet born out by experiment.
>
> I could help you go through those many experiments one at a time.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Axil, don't misunderstand, I have definitely read reference material
>> concerning what you're talking about. I find a lot of it interesting and
>> possibly suggestive of what might be going on in plasmatic NiH systems. I
>> don't take any current theory as "the truth" -- yours or Ed's. I have
>> questions about all of them. Like all theories at this point, the idea of
>> plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of faith & assumptions that I
>> don't think are yet born out by experiment. There's hints, as you've
>> stated, that could be connected, but they don't necessarily have to be. But
>> again, at least it seems like w/ NiH you're trying to put together some
>> experimental tests, which I appreciate & like about what you're doing.
>> Also, I know you trust all the DGT data, but I don't, so we're at an
>> impasse there. I will be very excited if they are actually doing legitimate
>> mass spectroscopy work as promised however.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will answer the other two, but I also hope that you will attempt to
>>> understand some Nanoplasmonics. Just read the intro, and concentrate on how
>>> hot spots work. Please....I need more targets.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for a bit about your background, I appreciate that. But you
>>>> still have two more to go before the toll is paid I'm afraid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I will pay your price so here is #2
>>>>>
>>>>> * Do you have a background in science, a self-taught amateur, or
>>>>> somewhere in between? I don't think it's fair to be completely anonymous
>>>>> when putting forth some sort of grand unified TOE.*
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a degree in physics, but make a living as a system engineer. I
>>>>> specialize in reverse engineering old system's where all info about
>>>>> how they work and what they do has been lose to the ravages of time. I
>>>>> study such systems  in order to upgrade them to a new and/or higher level
>>>>> of technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> The skill set that I have perfected over many years  is a great help
>>>>> in connecting the dots. I believe I can connect the dots with the best of
>>>>> them. A systems engineer is a generalist and a good one will
>>>>> become competent or expert is any technology that is required to 
>>>>> understand
>>>>> how a given system works.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a paranoid, I am afraid of Putin. When Putin finds out that the
>>>>> LENR GUT has destroyed his dreams, his friends, and is removing him from
>>>>> power, he will be pissed and being unknown to him for as long as possible
>>>>> is reassuring to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> And there are many centers of power like Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rossi has said that he has  protection. I think that he does
>>>>> but I surly  don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> The more people who know how LENR works, the more targets there will
>>>>> be during the big reveal. But no one is willing to take that path. I want
>>>>> more target so I am not the only one. Any volunteers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you can explain them away. That's not much of an
>>>>>> accomplishment. Are you going to take the time to answer the other three
>>>>>> questions I posed to you before we go off on this tangent?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR,
>>>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still 
>>>>>>> confront a
>>>>>>> number of problems as you probably know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great, let us talk about these problems. I don't see problems. I bet
>>>>>>> I can explain away these problems. Please give be a shot at that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It
>>>>>>>> doesn't contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions & 
>>>>>>>> bosons
>>>>>>>> play different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually -- 
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR,
>>>>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories 
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still 
>>>>>>>> confront a
>>>>>>>> number of problems as you probably know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One can just as easily picture a more general process (as I
>>>>>>>> just highlighted in two different hot fusion systems), absent of 
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> phase transitions, occurring across different LENR systems. Based on 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> evidence so far, I think at best it could be argued that there a draw
>>>>>>>> exists between the two points of view.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate you clearing up any confusions. Take care.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   *From:* Foks0904 .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> …But in many cases, under the umbrella of a general process, such
>>>>>>>>> as traditional nuclear reactions, despite the difference, the 
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> isotopes all tend to follow the same general script in terms of how a
>>>>>>>>> reaction path progresses and generates effects.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not so! Bosons are very different from Fermions – profoundly
>>>>>>>>> different when it comes to nuclear interaction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enough said?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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