Axil -- What if I don't connect the same dots from the material you provide, all of which comes from either (1) outside the field of LENR, or (2) is based on speculative findings, that may or may not be true once more serious replications are undertaken? Would that make me wrong and you right? Do you still leave room for doubt in your mind about your model?
I appreciate you explaining the more esoteric aspects a bit better. This is where I start having more of a problem. Considering how untestable and unobservable all of that sounds, I think you'd have to work out a lot of math to validate any of that. Have you started work in that direction? Theories, like Ed's, don't need to get all that mathematically complex right-of-the-bat because there are basic things about the theory postulates that can easily guide experiment, and makes like a dozen testable predictions. I've heard your cloud chamber hypothesis for Cravens orbs, what else do you have in mind to test any of this in LENR systems? On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > *...doing with the hydrogen to produce observed excess heat?* > > Based on the LENR system, the magnetic field could grow so strong that it > causes pions to condense out of the vacuum and these pions cause the matter > inside the volume of the magnetic field potential to became disrupted. > These hydrogen atoms stay in superposition until their reaction energy is > transferred back to the soliton whence a new element is formed. > > The magnetic field can also transmute protons and neutrons into guark > plasma if it is powerful enough. This level of magnetic power is possible > because all the members of he polariton ensemble can contribute magnetic > energy to the soliton where the reaction is taking place. > > When the magnetic field is weak, virtual particle production catalyzed by > the magnetic field will cause alpha particle ejection from the material in > the reaction zone of the magnetic field. > > I have references for all this stuff if you need to be convinced. > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Axil -- How is a plasmon condensate promoting a heat generating effect >> in NiH systems? What is the quantum-coherent quasi-particle (aka >> soliton) system, connected through a "whispering quantum hall effect" >> between nano-cavities (perhaps being drawn in by nano-whiskers), doing with >> the hydrogen to produce observed excess heat? Fusing it? Fusion/Fission? >> Why/how? Based on your systems engineering background, I can see why you >> were drawn to such a complex and holistic model. >> >> Another thing is, I'm not yet convinced of superconductivity for example >> -- I'd be interested for sure to see someone measure NAE for a >> mini-Meissner effect. That would be more convincing than just >> Miley's measurements that has a number of different explanations beyond >> achieving SC. I think you take SC as a given based on scant evidence. Or >> Tesla-scale magnetic fields that I think you take as a given without proper >> replication or surety of truth. Considering DGT likely botched a simple >> demo last July, I'm not as confident in their technical know-how as I once >> was. >> >> Regards, >> John >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> at this point, the idea of plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps >>> of faith & assumptions that I don't think are yet born out by experiment. >>> >>> I could help you go through those many experiments one at a time. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Axil, don't misunderstand, I have definitely read reference material >>>> concerning what you're talking about. I find a lot of it interesting and >>>> possibly suggestive of what might be going on in plasmatic NiH systems. I >>>> don't take any current theory as "the truth" -- yours or Ed's. I have >>>> questions about all of them. Like all theories at this point, the idea of >>>> plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of faith & assumptions that I >>>> don't think are yet born out by experiment. There's hints, as you've >>>> stated, that could be connected, but they don't necessarily have to be. But >>>> again, at least it seems like w/ NiH you're trying to put together some >>>> experimental tests, which I appreciate & like about what you're doing. >>>> Also, I know you trust all the DGT data, but I don't, so we're at an >>>> impasse there. I will be very excited if they are actually doing legitimate >>>> mass spectroscopy work as promised however. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I will answer the other two, but I also hope that you will attempt to >>>>> understand some Nanoplasmonics. Just read the intro, and concentrate on >>>>> how >>>>> hot spots work. Please....I need more targets. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for a bit about your background, I appreciate that. But you >>>>>> still have two more to go before the toll is paid I'm afraid. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, I will pay your price so here is #2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Do you have a background in science, a self-taught amateur, or >>>>>>> somewhere in between? I don't think it's fair to be completely anonymous >>>>>>> when putting forth some sort of grand unified TOE.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a degree in physics, but make a living as a system engineer. >>>>>>> I specialize in reverse engineering old system's where all info about >>>>>>> how they work and what they do has been lose to the ravages of time. I >>>>>>> study such systems in order to upgrade them to a new and/or higher >>>>>>> level >>>>>>> of technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The skill set that I have perfected over many years is a great help >>>>>>> in connecting the dots. I believe I can connect the dots with the best >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> them. A systems engineer is a generalist and a good one will >>>>>>> become competent or expert is any technology that is required to >>>>>>> understand >>>>>>> how a given system works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a paranoid, I am afraid of Putin. When Putin finds out that the >>>>>>> LENR GUT has destroyed his dreams, his friends, and is removing him from >>>>>>> power, he will be pissed and being unknown to him for as long as >>>>>>> possible >>>>>>> is reassuring to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And there are many centers of power like Putin. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rossi has said that he has protection. I think that he does >>>>>>> but I surly don't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The more people who know how LENR works, the more targets there will >>>>>>> be during the big reveal. But no one is willing to take that path. I >>>>>>> want >>>>>>> more target so I am not the only one. Any volunteers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know you can explain them away. That's not much of an >>>>>>>> accomplishment. Are you going to take the time to answer the other >>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>> questions I posed to you before we go off on this tangent? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, >>>>>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still >>>>>>>>> confront a >>>>>>>>> number of problems as you probably know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great, let us talk about these problems. I don't see problems. I >>>>>>>>> bet I can explain away these problems. Please give be a shot at that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It >>>>>>>>>> doesn't contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions & >>>>>>>>>> bosons >>>>>>>>>> play different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually >>>>>>>>>> -- so >>>>>>>>>> what? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, >>>>>>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still >>>>>>>>>> confront a >>>>>>>>>> number of problems as you probably know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One can just as easily picture a more general process (as I >>>>>>>>>> just highlighted in two different hot fusion systems), absent of >>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>> phase transitions, occurring across different LENR systems. Based on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> evidence so far, I think at best it could be argued that there a draw >>>>>>>>>> exists between the two points of view. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I appreciate you clearing up any confusions. Take care. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Foks0904 . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> …But in many cases, under the umbrella of a general process, >>>>>>>>>>> such as traditional nuclear reactions, despite the difference, the >>>>>>>>>>> different isotopes all tend to follow the same general script in >>>>>>>>>>> terms of >>>>>>>>>>> how a reaction path progresses and generates effects. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not so! Bosons are very different from Fermions – profoundly >>>>>>>>>>> different when it comes to nuclear interaction. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Enough said? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
