Jones: Yes, even we vorticians have been jaded. A claimed COP of 8 usually leads to a tried & tested COP of 1.8 when all is said & done, and the error bars typically are +/- 0.7, so it becomes unremarkable.
With that perspective an outset claimed COP of 1.68 usually leads to a tried & tested COP of less than unity. But I've seen electogravitics claims go black. The entire field of electrogravitics was classified in the 1950's. Good enough place to start: http://www.quantum-potential.com/ACT%20NASA.pdf Kevin O On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > > > This is from an older thread, but the comment did not get through. > > > > Basically, it is this. What is wrong with a COP of 1.68 on the early > rounds of development of a new technology? > > > > It is almost as if Vortex, with all the claims floating around, has become > jaded by expectation levels of COP which are unrealistic. I would love to > see a Rossi device, or Mills device, or Mizuno device confirmed at COP > 1.68, so long as this number was rock-solid … as in a rocket thruster, > since there is more to the advantage than energy gain. > > > > Basically – Any confirmed OU level over 1 - would overturn about half of > physics; and is up there with the most significant inventions of all time. > And we have to assume that a first prototype of any thruster is below the > eventual level. But anyway - for rocketry – NASA is not as concerned with > OU as with > > “specific impulse”. > > > > The important figure of merit for this thruster then becomes: > > > > For the BLP Rocket engine, a maximum theoretical Isp of 21,000 seconds is > predicted as compared to approximately 500 > > seconds for an H2/O2 chemical rocket. > > > > That is huge. Of course, this “predicted” figure may contain the usual > Mills hype, since the Rowan demo was not really “independent”. Mills and > Janssen are reported to be personal friends. > > > > But with the possibility that the 40:1 thrust improvement (isp) when > looked at in a finished rocket is only 4:1 improvement, in reality (i.e. if > we reduce the BS level by a factor of 10) NASA should have stuck with this > device IMO even if the COP was not extravagant. > > > > Hmm….Perhaps they did stick with it… and the project is now black. Black > as in Morgan Freeman’s role in “Chain Reaction” … okay… that was only > Hollywood and that kind of thing seldom happens, right … > > > > *From:* Kevin O'Malley > > > > COP was from 1.06 to 1.68. No wonder they never pursued it. > > > > > Take a close look at Janssen’s microwave thruster at Rowan – how could NASA > not > have jumped on that? > > >
