Hoi,
You do not address how it prevents redundancy. I do not care for lexemes
nor forms when they do not incorporate labels. That is something that you
can explain now.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 8 May 2015 at 07:00, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I mean, the lexical data in Wikidata according to the proposal would
> allow for statements on Lexemes and Forms. I slipped into the future for a
> moment ;)
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying. The lexical data in
>> Wikidata does allow for statements on Lexemes and Forms, as the proposal
>> states explicitly.
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> Given the opposition to having statements on the level of the label, it
>>> does not make sense to have Wiktionary included in Wikidata.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2015 at 06:19, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would disagree with requiring the Wiktionary communities to change
>>>> their ways. Instead we should adapt our plans to fit into the way they are
>>>> set up.
>>>>
>>>> Even if the English Wiktionary community would change to have
>>>> per-language pages instead of the current system, it would be rather
>>>> unlikely that all other language editions of Wiktionary would follow in a
>>>> timely manner. I would prefer to leave this decision to the autonomy of the
>>>> projects, and instead adapt to them (which is, by the way, what the
>>>> proposal does).
>>>>
>>>> Yair, as Daniel said, the current Wiktionary pages would not be mapped
>>>> to Q-Items. Since this was unclear, I tried to update the text to make it
>>>> clearer. Let me know if it is still confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I do not think a separate Wikibase instance would be needed to provide
>>>> the data for Wiktionary. I think this can and should be done on Wikidata.
>>>> But as said by Milos and pointed out by Gerard, lexical knowledge does
>>>> indeed require a different data schema. This is why the proposal introduces
>>>> new entity types for lexemes, forms, and senses. The data model is mostly
>>>> based on lexical ontologies that we surveyed, like LEMON and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andy Mabbett, 07/05/2015 22:53:
>>>>> >> >The Wiktionary communities tend to strongly disagree that
>>>>> splitting entries
>>>>> >> >per language would be easier for either editors or readers.
>>>>> > How many languages are currently used? How will this scale to ~300
>>>>> languages?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm? Last time I counted, the English Wiktionary alone used way more
>>>>> than
>>>>> 300 languages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nemo
>>>>>
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