John! I wasn't talking about me! I'm not there anymore LOL I won't name names, but I will say they're lurking about on this list...
you know who you are people :) I'm starting to see a new reality show... something like 'Rock school' but it would be called 'standards school' - john perhaps you can take over Gene simmons role...? :) -----Original Message----- From: John Allsopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2005 9:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Educate the educators (was) Barclays standards redesign Then again, I used to teach at Northern Sydney IT - they aren't all lucky enough to get you Lisa :-) john On 08/09/2005, at 9:48 AM, Herrod, Lisa wrote: > There are actually a few excellent teachers at Sydney Institute > (ultimo > TAFE) who understand and teach web site design and development with > a real > focus on web standards. Their knowledge is extremely current and > while the > old addage of > >> 'Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.' >> > > is sometimes true, it isn't always. and defineitely not in this case. > > Lisa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seona Bellamy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2005 9:36 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Educate the educators (was) Barclays standards > redesign > > > On 08/09/2005, at 9:14 AM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: > > >> On 8 Sep 2005, at 8:59 AM, Craig Rippon wrote: >> >> >> >>> by-the-by: I am a web development student at Yeronga TAFE college >>> in Brisbane, Australia. One of my instructors has never heard of >>> DOCTYPE, refuses to put tags in lowercase and also refuses to >>> close <p>, 'cause they don't need to be closed. >>> >>> >> >> Which just goes to prove the (cynical) old saw: 'Those that can, >> do. Those that can't, teach.' >> >> Seriously, this is a good example of how important it is that >> tertiary education the world over keeps its curriculum up to speed >> with what's happening in the real world. Difficult, I know, given >> the administrative behemoths that are responsible for govt-run >> education - but as a student, if your course is not up to scratch, >> you should complain - in writing - to the highest power that you >> can. Maybe your local MP? It may take years for change to come >> about, and probably won't help you, but it may help the students >> down the line... >> >> > > And in the meantime, you've got us to help you learn to do it right! > *grin* > > Seriously, though, when I did my uni course we had a subject on > usability and accessibility and it touched briefly (very briefly) on > CSS. Pity none of the tutors really understood it. *sigh* I ended up > taking one of the tutes myself, because I was the only one in the > class who knew what the lecturer was getting at. > > Might have considered getting into teaching myself, except that it > would mean I had to deal with students... > > > Cheers, > > Seona. > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > John Allsopp style master :: css editor :: http://westciv.com/style_master support forum :: http://support.westciv.com blog :: dog or higher :: http://blogs.westciv.com/dog_or_higher Web Essentials web development conference http://we05.com ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
