Re: [WSG] Click here--reference

[Christian Montoya]

You guys are completely off here. Links are supposed to be like this:

Get < a href="" href="http://www.url.com">http://www.url.com" title="Link to download Amaya, the W3C Web Browser for testing">Amaya< /a>

Links without titles are already inaccessible, regardless of context.

The screen reader refers to the title of the link for relevant information. That's why W3C recommends titles for links.

On 9/19/05, Richard Czeiger < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice attempt Russ, but I'm with Andreas here.

If the the link takes you to a location whose purpose is to execute a function (apart from reading/viewing) then why not state that.

I've exempted reading and viewing as they're pretty much what you *have* to do on the web for every page - so that's kind of stating the obvious. However, for pages where you're asked to register for a conference, for example, there's no way you'd put:

 

Register for the Forbes Conference.

 

That seems confusing and not very user-friendly  :o)

 

So would you instead put: Register for the Forbes Conference. ????

 

I'm not a huge fan of sites that link every word to something else.

 

R  :o)

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org >

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:03 AM

Subject: RE: [WSG] Click here--reference

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: russ - maxdesign [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:44 AM
>> To: Web Standards Group
>> Subject: Re: [WSG] Click here--reference
>>
>> > - A website talking about "Amaya"
>> > - Download "Amaya"
>> > - The "Amaya" Forum
>> > - My aunty "Amaya"
>>
>> So, without verbs, it could still be more descriptive with
>> slight tweaks and
>> without using verbs
>>
>> - Download the "Amaya Software"
>> - The "Amaya Forum"
>> - My "Aunty Amaya"
>
> Yeah, it's better than what the original site had, but I am still not
> convinced. Why not express what the link does? If the link starts a
> "download of software", why not say so? I can understand that people are
> against linking entire phrases such as "Click here to view information about
> my Aunty Amaya", but a simple "Download Amaya" doesn't harm anybody, but
> makes it, in my opinion, more userfriendly.
>
>
> If you think about the phrase:
>
> Download the "Amaya Software"
>
> To me the link "Amaya Software" could still be taking you to a page that
> explains about "Amaya Software". However, "Download Amaya Software" is a
> straight forward, unambiguous link.
>
> And this is independent to screenreaders. Let's say I come to a website
> hoping to download the software. The keyword I am searching for is clearly
> "download", in particular if the entire site is plastered with the term
> "Amaya". Users scan the page and the things that stand out most are links.
> So let's give them the keywords they are looking for - and in many cases
> these keywords may be verbs.
>
>
> On a different matter, I do like your suggestion on the "Accessible more
> links". :)
>
>
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