---lol,in the cleaning of it at least.Guy

 In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good idea! It's probably down the back of the sofa.
> 
> anatmanwave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:          ---You want to know 
what Zen is? Clean your house. Guy
> 
> In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > I think so too - and if that's the case I'd like to make the 
most 
> of 
> > this stop.
> > 
> > I know there are many other 'lurking' out there, but not 
posting. 
> > That's okay, but I'd like to see more people actively 
> participating 
> > in the forum. I've started a thread NOT CAVEAT EMPTOR in which I 
> > hope to explore with others just what we think zen is, and is 
not.
> > 
> > Please join us.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, daniel sherwood <desherwood7@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If I can add something here, I believe we're all on a 
spiritual 
> > journey and this group is one of stops along the way. 
> > > 
> > > Danny
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Bill Smart <BillSmart@>
> > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:47:42 AM
> > > Subject: [Zen] Caveat Emptor
> > > 
> > > I recently made some postings that caused some participants 
> > > unpleasantness. Sometimes that's okay, and I certainly have 
been 
> > > know to purposely rattle a few cages, but in these recent 
> postings 
> > > that was not my intent. So...I would like to clarify my past 
and 
> > > future postings as follows:
> > > 
> > > I do not own this forum, so cannot exclude anyone. For the 
most 
> > part 
> > > I wouldn't want to exclude anyone, with the possible exception 
> of 
> > > those that blatantly post marketing material. Al, the forum 
> > > moderator, can exclude participants, but I have not known of a 
> case 
> > > in the past 3 or 4 years that he has done so.
> > > 
> > > We all participate in this forum voluntarily. Some particpate 
> very 
> > > seriously, some jokingly. Some, like me, participate sometimes 
> > > seriously, and sometimes jokingly. I offer no apologies for 
this.
> > > 
> > > Most importantly, you should not depend on this forum for 
> spritual 
> > or 
> > > other advice. Do not believe everything you read here, or 
> anywhere 
> > > for that matter.
> > > 
> > > Believe in youself. Just sit. If you're lucky enough to have 
> found 
> > > a good teacher or group with which to participate, beleive in 
> them 
> > > with all your heart. They will help you in your practice. 
> > > Enlightenment is a product of the desire of the student, not 
the 
> > > skill of the teacher. A earnest teacher cannot lead a false 
> student 
> > > to enlightenment. On the other hand a earnest student can 
become 
> > > enlighted under a false teacher; or without a teacher at all.
> > > 
> > > Just sit.
> > > 
> > > ...Bill! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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