I have the Focus adapters (although I do have some Farallons in a box)
with terminators. The problem is not the wiring itself, because I can
use it to communicate between my older System 7 Macs and print to an
AppleTalk printer. It's just that the PM doesn't want to join the
network. Hopefully, I'll have some time to play with settings tomorrow
night.

On 9/12/05, Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 3:47 PM -0500 9/12/05, Jeff Walther wrote:
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:44:32 EDT
> >>Subject: Re: [1st] PM 6100/66 AppleTalk Problems
> >>
> >>In a message NODEraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >><<BTW, I am trying to use AppleTalk over PhoneNet, not ethernet. I don't
> >>think my older Macs are capable of doing AppleTalk over Ethernet. >>
> >>
> >>My bad, I assumed you were using Ethernet. These old machines will do
> >>Ethernet I have three 6100's on my network, you just need a AAUI
> >>transceiver which
> >>are available used for $5-10. Of course any other computers and
> >>devices on your
> >>network would also have to be Ethernet capable.
> >>
> >>Getting back to the problem, it has been a while since I used PhoneNet, just
> >>be sure (you most likely have done so) that AppleTalk is active in Chooser.
> >>And depending on how your network is setup you should check your
> >>TCP/IP Control
> >>Panel settings as well. Oh, and also check your PhoneNet connectors
> >>and wires.
> >>
> >>Perhaps someone else can offer more advice. Good luck -- glen
> >
> >I haven't followed this thread at all--but--termination can be an
> >issue with PhoneNet.  Surely someone has already mentioned this, but
> >in case they haven't...
> >
> >Each PhoneNet connector needs to have both jacks filled.  If there
> >is only one cable connected to a PhoneNet connector, then the other
> >jack should have a terminator installed.  The terminator is just a
> >little telephone plug with a resistor between the yellow and black
> >wire terminals.  I don't recall the resistance at the moment.
> 
> Only if you are doing a daisy chain connection.  In a bus topology
> the wiring is terminated and individual drops are not.
> 
> It's likely this installation is a daisy chain setup but I mentioned
> it because this is a common way mis-information gets passed around.
> Someone mentions partial information and then others who don't know
> better think it's the whole story.
> 
> >
> >An unterminated PhoneNet installation usually results in the Mac at
> >the opposite end of the network from the unterminated end freezing
> >up during network operations.
> 
> 
> Note that in a short daisy chain network (<20')  you can get away a
> single terminator or in a very short network (<10') no terminator.
> 
> >
> >Some of the Focus brand PhoneNet connectors had "automatic"
> >termination, but I never found it to work well, and installed the
> >actual terminator where needed anyway.  Later the Focus boxes had a
> >switch on the side to turn termination on or off.  The Focus boxes
> >were black.
> 
> 
> Various knock offs (everyone but Farallon is a knock off) include the
> termination switch (some Farallon too, IIRC).  Some have LEDs but I
> always tried to steer clear of these, those LEDs are using power that
> otherwise goes into a stronger signal).
> 
> 
> Farallon used to include a good little booklet on setting up a
> PhoneNet network with their boxes.  It was really quite good in
> detailing how to setup PhoneNet networks from simple two node nets to
> large campus wide systems.  The maximum network length is 5000'
> 
> 
> --
> Clark Martin
> Redwood City, CA, USA
> Macintosh / Internet Consulting
> 
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