Dave Phillips wrote:
> Daniel James wrote:
>   
>>> it was no picnic getting things this far and I will not be surprised 
>>> if users report problems similar to the ones I encountered.
>>>       
>> I'd be very interested to read about that, as we're currently 
>> developing a product based on Jaunty sources.
>>
>>     
>
> Some background: I want at least one machine here to remain an i386 box. 
> Some software has not yet made the transition to 64-bit, and I need/want 
> that software (SC3, the Lightscribe stuff

The 32bit LightScribe driver is fine on 64bit Suse, but the Windows 
tools are much better ;).
I'm thinking to run something 32bit Debian based too, instead of my 
64bit 64 Studio(s), maybe a 64 Studio 32bit.

> , VST plugins, etc). So, I 
> tried to install Jaunty via the DVD images (i386 and amd64), both of 
> which failed at exactly the same point *after* the installer had 
> partitioned the disk. I won't bother detailing my actions, I'll write it 
> all up, but the initial outcome yielded a hosed disk partition and no 
> usable Jaunty.
>
> And yes, the problem with the DVD installer is known to the distro devs. 
> So I re-installed a stock 8.10 (i386) and used the Upgrade Manager to 
> successfully upgrade to Jaunty. My troubles began after installing the 
> Ubuntu Studio meta packages. Again, I won't go into the details now, but 
> I have quite a list of things I had to do to get the system to a 
> workable state.
>
>   
>>> I also have a few recommendations for all multimedia distro maintainers.
>>>       
>> I'm all ears :-)
>>
>>
>>     
>
> Two especially annoying details that might be handled by the distro 
> installer and its configuration tools: The entries in 
> /etc/security/limits.conf and the creation of an audio group with the 
> user included. I don't see why the user has to take these steps, they're 
> the same for every installation, so why not automate them ?
>
> I have more to say about things like Pulseaudio, insufficient support 
> for the touchpad, HAL polling, and other annoyances, but you'll have to 
> wait. Or you can try installing Jaunty like I did to see which of my 
> troubles occur for you.
>
> Basically, anything that is going to be configured identically across 
> all installations should be taken out of the user's concerns. For 
> example, I can't figure why Pulseaudio is installed as the primary sound 
> server in an audio production system. If it is included there ought to 
> be a 1-click solution for disabling it, but at this time a rather 
> lengthy series of hoops must be negotiated. And on and on and on it 
> goes, one annoyance after another.
>
> Having said that, I'll also say that the new system is beautiful. Now 
> that I have some stability with it I might try some "serious" recording 
> with it on my band's gig this weekend. I'll let you know how that goes.
>
> The article will appear in three or four weeks. I'll be happy to send it 
> to you if you'd like to read it before it goes on-line.

Does nobody have problems with Hardy? Am I the only one who has to do 3 
steps to get PPPoE to run with each boot, but these 3 steps only work 
when I use GNOME instead of KDE4? I'm not feeling good with a 64 Studio 
using Ubuntu Hardy instead of a true Debian.

Cheers,
Ralf
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