Turner, Randy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I think it's a false assumption that just because K1 is pre-provisioned
    > that K2 will be pre-provisioned as well -- there are many network
    > success stories that utilize pre-provisioning of an endpoint-unique K1
    > to bootstrap other trust relationships.

You didn't say what I said.,
I'm saying that if K1 has to be provisioned in the field, (not
pre-provisioned at manufacturer time), that one might as well provision K2 to
as well.

I wonder what you mean by "pre-provisioning" here, and if you can point at
the the success stories you mention.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: 6tisch [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael 
Richardson
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 2:06 PM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [6tisch] Shipping minimal


    > Tero Kivinen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Kris Pister writes:
    >>> > there would be no false sense of security
    >>>
    >>> Can we see a show of hands of all of the people on the list who
    >>> think that there is any sense of security from using a key that is
    >>> published in an RFC? No? No one?

    >> And ask that same question from normal users installing termostats or
    >> other internet of things devices?

    > But, 6tisch (minimal) is not targetted at that kind of use.
    > It's targetted at industrial users that need deterministic work.
    > Minimal is further targetted at well... interop.

    > Let me put it differently: Bluetooth didn't specify a default key, and 
didn't do enrollment for headsets sanely, and now the "K1" *and* "K2" keys are 
"0000"
    > We can't keep people from doing stupid things.  We need known K1 in order 
to bootstrap to a KMP in order to set up K2.

    > If K1 has to be provisioned, then K2 will get set at the same time, and 
K1 and K2 will get set to "0000".

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