On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:46 AM, p q <[email protected]> wrote:
> thanks for the last two questions
> this was also the important facts that nobody mentioned them . to do
> a successful attack to A5/1 enabled GSM you need to capture signal on a
> wide-band style meaning you need to capture all the bands that may have
> carrier on them . this is highly depended on the network configuration
> specially the design on BTS .
> real world BTSs are offering services on different bands and calls are
> always get handover between the bands due to radio resource management . for
> a sucsessful GSM interception you at least need to capture Downlink .

Sitting with my phone here and a spectrum analyser I do not see it
changing bands.
Can you point me to some relevant references on this subject?

(and wow, it sure does produce a lot of broadband noise!)

> considering the current opensource and cheap hardware you can simple forget
> to capture both uplink and downlink , that's just not possible .
> to capture Downlink of a BTS that offers GSM1800 you need to capture at
> least 75 MB of the spectrum space

Again, I do not see behaviour on my phone here which supports your statement.
So far it only seems to transmit within a ~4mhz window.

Unfortunately, I'm not able to make the same determination in the
other direction, for obvious reasons, and I'm unwilling to intercept a
signal illegally.

If the uplink that its speaking to also behaves the same way, then the
USRP1 should be sufficient.

My understanding was that single provider allocations in a band were
much smaller than the whole band. Is this not the case?

> this is far more than USRP and also
> beyond USRP2

The USRP2 does I/Q sampling at 100M/S.  75MHz is well within its
bandpass. A custom FPGA image would be required in order to actually
get something usable *out*, so we're still talking an enormous amount
of work to do something usable with a whole band. But the FPGA on the
USRP2 is quite large, so I don't see any reason to write off the
possibility of capturing a whole band if that is actually necessary.
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