se can we talk about technology related things? dont take as any bad but tell me cannot we talk about new technology and new softwares for the blind why on politics or such things
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 11:34, Harish <[email protected]> wrote: > All > > No more of this bikering on the list. > > This thread is closed with immediate effect. > > Harish > > On 06/02/2021 09:12, Amiyo Biswas wrote: > > Hello Sandesh, > > > > If you are talking about Vaisnavi's mail, this is not from NPRD. This > is from CBSJ. It is a large document, I will read it later. However, it is > more or less accessible. > > > > With best regards, > > Amiyo Biswas > > Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandesh > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 5:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Analysis of disability coverage in India's pandemic > budget > > > > > > Namaskar all! > > > > I just would make few points. list members are free to decide: > > > > 1. to begin with, as already is clear to all, the language used, the > way of expression, the stand usually taken, mocking anything that is > Bharatiya (Divyang and Atmanirbhar are just few examples) and imposing > ideology in name of disability deliberately to hurt sentiments by NPRD is > the culprit. all listers here are quite mature and do understand that > provisions done in current union budget need improvement. at the same time, > people also do understand the situation the nation is undergoing due to > challenging times of pandemic. > > > > 2. the original subject line is changed but the reply is cunningly > given to the original thread. The original thread could have been easily > avoided so that new fresh discussion would have taken place if members > felt. what is the intent of doing so? just the tactic used with changing > the subject line and keeping the original thread intact for further > provocation? > > > > 3. The moderator already has closed this thread with immediate > effect. What then the Point No. 2 indicates? The answer is no smart > intelligence is required to fathom out that group's guidelines are grossly > violated. > > > > 4. NPRD is working for disability comunity as per its statement for > at least 10 years now, so it must be knowing about accessibility, specially > accessibility of documents with regards to those with disabilities. but has > it taken little pain and effort of checking the provided PDF document from > accessibility point of view? > > I have checked the PDF document with both screen readers IE JAWS and > NVDA. first, the PDF is not tagged. Very basic accessibility feature is > lacking here. not doing any other elaberation on more such features. > > another thing is whenever there is a word in a document having > letters "ti" in middle of it, JAWS and NVDA did not read it correctly. for > example, the word population is read as populaon, the word domestic is > read as Domesc, sections is read as secons, the word time is read as > me and so on. it reads matters as maers. some more words I did not take > time to figure out are destuon etc. > > NPRD could have easily produced the accessible version of the said > portion of the above-mentioned document and have given the original source > for reference and/or for further information. but the link for this > document is hurriedly provided. it claims the research all the time. why > the simple research regarding the accessibility and how the document is > read out by the screen reader is not done here? > > The reason of telling all this is that NPRD continuously in its mails > loves taunting in name of "Accessible India", the initiative taken by the > democratically elected Government of the country running with majority. but > what happened to its boasting as the defender and protector of > accessibility, human rights and inclusiveness here? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Vande Mataram > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) > > To: Access Forum > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 11:00 AM > > Subject: [AI] Analysis of disability coverage in India's pandemic > budget > > > > > > The Equals CPSJ disability budget analysis chapter extracted from > the CBGA budget report : > > > > > > > https://www.cbgaindia.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Budget-in-the-Time-of-Pandemic-An-Analysis-of-Union-Budget-2021-22.pdf > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb, 2021, 6:43 pm Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India), > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I will be sharing the Equals CPSJ budget analysis once the CBGA > report is out over the next couple of days. > > > > > > With its tables and Equals' work on budget advocacy over the > years, you will find the NPRD statement correct even if difficult to > digest for those who bring politics and preferences into anything > critiquing the current status quo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb, 2021, 3:16 pm Niranjanraj Urs, < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > In stead of comparing provisioning figures for FY 2021-22 NPRD > would > > do well to compare the figures of Revised Expenditure of 2020-21 > > with budgeted figures 2021-22. The inteligentia of NPRD know > that the > > year 2020-21 is extraordinarily bad not only for India but to > the > > entire world. How India has fared when compared to the most > advanced > > and wealthy countries is for all to see. People with blinkered > vision > > unfortunately do not see or even if they see does not have the > heart > > to appreciate. Finally, NPRD and their fellow travellers would > they > > sympathise with the police men and women who are rendered > disabled > > physically and emotionally by the attacking goons disguised as > > farmers on our Republic Day? > > Dr.B.Niranjan Raj Urs > > On 2/2/21, Amiyo Biswas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well, NPRD's support to the farmers' protest does not > disqualify its merits. > > > > > > What the NPRD says about the budget is correct. When most of > the departments > > > > > > have have got a budget raise, why should MSJe get a smaller > chunk of the > > > pie? > > > > > > With best regards, > > > Amiyo Biswas > > > Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sandesh" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:33 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget > > > > > > > > > Exactly Avichal! > > > very well said, even I wanted to come to these points. > > > The language of such groups is absolutely nonacceptable. > > > These people even don't know the difference between > "Atmanirbhar" and > > > "Atma". I also don't find anything wrong using the word > Divyang. and I can > > > vouch for many disabled who love the word Divyang in place of > Vikalang. > > > In short, they don't even know what to say where and when. or > to be > > > precise, > > > they say things > > > selectively. This is not going to do anything good for the > sector as whole! > > > I feel there is no > > > need even to praise the government, only admitting the facts > would suffice > > > here. > > > But the way things are discussed by such organisations, it > seems that they > > > say things for the > > > sake of saying. I don't know which masters are they trying to > please > > > instead > > > of working > > > honestly for the cause of Divyangjan. > > > > > > They support the Farmers' protest using name of disabled > (everybody knows > > > what happened on Red Fort on 26th of January), they come to > the help of > > > criminals (Sorry, sorry, Hard-core > > > criminals) charged by NIA like Stan Swami, they condemn the > statement of > > > Khushbu Sundar on some frivolous grounds because she leaves > the Congress > > > and > > > join the BJP and smartly ignore the same kind of statements > of people like > > > Salman Khurshid and others because maybe these people are > perfect to suit > > > the agenda of such groups who want to insist anything on in > the sweet name > > > of disabled! > > > > > > is this the work of/and/for disability? I even heard that > they signed the > > > petition exhibiting > > > solidarity with people showing mercy to killers of many > inocent countrymen > > > (Yes, I am referring > > > to Yakoob Menon) to Rashtrapati of India. > > > for people like me and all members (around 100 blind > Karyakartas of Samarth > > > Bharat Manch from > > > various parts of India) all these activities comes under > antisocial > > > catagory. not only this, > > > > > > for us, all such things could easily be classified as > anti-india > > > activities. > > > I believe there > > > shouldn't be any reason for disagreeing here with all that is > said. > > > > > > Asking here the question to NPRD for the sake of curiosity, > nothing more > > > nothing less, and yes, > > > you are free not to answer as well, because I wasn't here on > the list that > > > time, what kind of > > > support you provided to Sadhvi Pragya and Kernal Purohit, > because Sadhvi > > > did > > > bound to > > > wheelchair and Mr. Purohit became almost disabled by the > police treatment. > > > entire country saw their condition. I hope you mustn't have > remembered > > > humanity or disability then. or you did not have any helping > hand at that > > > time. > > > I'm not saying it was your fault but why then such huge love > and support > > > for > > > Yakoob Menon, Stan > > > Swami and Farmers' agitation? > > > > > > Concisely, they are doing the well-planned work. Cause of > disabled is just > > > the tag they have > > > been carrying, their actual purpose is to push the > ideological propaganda > > > as > > > adeptly described > > > by Avichal. I myself could not find any other appropriate > word for such > > > henous work and that is > > > in the name of disability. nothing could be worse than this! > > > > > > the government of India has provided ten months exemption to > the disabled > > > employees working not > > > only with the central government but also in PSUs and many > more offices. > > > The > > > government even > > > advise these offices to allot such disabled employees proper > work from home > > > opportunities wherever possible. Sadly but factually, there > were some who > > > did take undue advantage of this > > > exemption. But NPRD and such people must not be aware of > this! right? > > > > > > in short, they are free to create and work with any narrative > and > > > agenda/propaganda, set forth > > > by them but why to do all this in the name of disabled? or to > say it > > > properly, drag the > > > disability to quench their own ideologicaal thirst? > > > > > > there was time when such activism in any name could easily be > digested, but > > > the things have changed now, you just cannot take people for > granted by > > > doing any agitation using shield of disability. this is > nothing but > > > carrying > > > and continuing with their business (Dhandha, as they > correctly say in > > > Hindi) > > > by encashing disability and/or people with disability > everywhere. > > > > > > Sorry for the longish mail. > > > but someone someday had to write this all. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Vande Mataram > > > > > > Sandesh > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2021 8:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget > > > > > > > > > The bitter fact is that we, the disabled, aren't a votebank; > hence we > > > will be on nobody's priority list. > > > However, another fact which we all must clearly understand is > that we > > > can achieve anything only via negotiations as we fail to make > any > > > electoral impact. > > > Yes, the government must be made aware about the issues of the > > > disabled, but I vehemently disagree from the stand of NPRD as > since > > > the beginning of 2014, I haven't found this organization ever > praising > > > the government for anything. > > > This proves that they work with a partisan agenda and have > nefarious > > > designs. > > > I can prove my point by pointing to the selective mails of > NPRD posted > > > here. > > > We mustn't forget that the government of India has not only > provided > > > free ration for many months to the needy disabled but has > also given > > > ten months exemption to the disabled employees working with > the > > > central government. > > > So, we must stick to our demands and have no compromise on > the welfare > > > of our community, but on the other hand we must also be aware > about > > > insidious groups trying to push their ideological propaganda > in the > > > name of disability activism. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/1/21, anirudh rao <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> yes this has been the long demand. > > >> but, nothing can be accepted from the government that speaks > much and > > >> acts > > >> less. > > >> > > >> On 2/1/21, Tanmay Srivastava <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> According to me now disability is not the subject of > welfare. > > >>> > > >>> Now it should not be the part of ministry of social justice > and > > >>> empowerment. > > >>> > > >>> It is the high time to make aware the government that > government should > > >>> create separate ministry for the empowerment of people with > > >>> disabilities. > > >>> > > >>> Looking forward to everyone's response. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon 1 Feb, 2021, 4:26 PM National Platform For The > Rights of the > > >>> Disabled, <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> February 1, 2021 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> *Press Statement* > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled > (NPRD) has issued > > >>>> the > > >>>> following statement: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> *Union Budget: Disabled Cold Shouldered* > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The NPRD lodges its strong protest at the substantial > reduction in > > >>>> budgetary support to the Department of Empowerment of > Persons with > > >>>> Disabilities. Even the meagre and inadequate Rs. 1325.39 > estimated last > > >>>> time, has been further reduced to Rs. 1171.77 crores this > time. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> This substantial reduction of nearly 12 per cent will > adversely impact > > >>>> various schemes and programmes that are being undertaken > by the > > >>>> department. The > > >>>> “Scheme for Implementation for Persons with Disabilities > Act” sees a > > >>>> cut > > >>>> in > > >>>> its allocation from Rs. 251.50 to Rs. 209.77 crores. The > National Trust > > >>>> which caters to persons with autism, cerebral palsy, > intellectual > > >>>> disabilities etc. is also witnessing lesser budgetary > support. It has > > >>>> been reduced from Rs. 39.50 to Rs. 30.00 crore. Even > allocations to the > > >>>> National Programme for Prevention of Blindness have been > reduced by > > >>>> nearly > > >>>> 50 per cent from Rs. 20.00 to Rs. 10.50 crores as compared > to last > > >>>> year. > > >>>> Grant in aid to state governments have also been reduced > substantially. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> When more disabled people are joining the ranks of the > unemployed, it > > >>>> would have been prudent to enhance allocations for the > National > > >>>> Handicapped > > >>>> Finance and Development Corporation, to enable it to > provide loans to > > >>>> small > > >>>> businesses set up by disabled people. On the contrary > budgetary support > > >>>> to > > >>>> the NHFDC has been drastically reduced from Rs. 41 crore > provisioned in > > >>>> the > > >>>> 2019-20 budget to a mere Rs. 0.01 crore this time. The > announcements > > >>>> made > > >>>> to vigorously pursue privatization of various public sector > > >>>> undertakings > > >>>> will adversely impact the disabled also. With the > government > > >>>> unrelenting > > >>>> on > > >>>> the demand to extend reservations to the private sector, > shrinking > > >>>> employment avenues in the government sector will see the > ranks of the > > >>>> unemployed disabled bourgeoning. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The total expenditure earmarked for the national > programmes for welfare > > >>>> of > > >>>> persons with disabilities has been reduced from Rs. 655 to > Rs. 584 > > >>>> crores. > > >>>> The > > >>>> total towards schemes/projects has been reduced from Rs. > 780.00 to Rs. > > >>>> 709.77 crores, this time. The total expenditure towards > Social security > > >>>> & > > >>>> welfare has seen a reduction from Rs. 1126.79 to Rs. > 988.59. Disability > > >>>> pension continues to be stagnant at Rs. 300 for the past > many years. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> In the pandemic situation, which saw a huge escalation in > the number of > > >>>> mental health cases, the allocations made towards mental > health > > >>>> displays > > >>>> the total lack of acknowledgement of the crisis. > Allocations to the > > >>>> National Mental Health Programme remains constant at Rs. > 40.00 crore. > > >>>> No > > >>>> support has been earmarked for the National Institute of > Mental Health > > >>>> & > > >>>> Research for the last two years. However, unlike last > time, there has > > >>>> been > > >>>> a slight increase in allocations to the National Institute > of Mental > > >>>> Health and Neurosciences, Bengaluru and the Lokpriya > Gopinath Bordoli > > >>>> Regional Institute of Mental Health, Tezpur. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> What is even more glaring is the complete omission of > flagship > > >>>> programme > > >>>> started by this government the *Accessible India* campaign. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The government remains content with bestowing divine > status and a label > > >>>> of > > >>>> *divyang, > > >>>> *even while pursuing policies that confine disabled > citizens to the > > >>>> margins. Displaying complete indifference, during the > entire two-hour > > >>>> long > > >>>> rhetoric filled speech by the Finance Minister, not once > did she refer > > >>>> to > > >>>> disabled persons. Disabled *atmas* don’t matter. 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