Hello sir, That sounds really awesome! I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the resources off the list to obtain the same.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh <[email protected]> wrote: > Namaskar! > > As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader also > known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee > singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. > Forget > all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not available > on > playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via dedicated > telegram > group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times in a week. it has 2 > version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. Commentary screen reader > international version without chinies language support, small in size. > Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not do > in > about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, this person > could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version does have all these > things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha solving capability and many > more > features. but it's basic or free version also does many things Talkback > developpers could not even think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use > its free version sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in > the task, and more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. > They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or > Commentary > screen reader, and people from various countries do great amount of > voluntary work like making it developped in different different languages > etc without any monitary thing involved is just amazing. This shows the > commitment, this is just an example of strong will for the work undertaken > with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi baat", giants like google does have > lots of things to learn from these people undoubtedly. and I can't stop > from > laughing when I hear hollow statements from google pertaining to > accessibility for all etc. > It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it is > Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's Chinies app > does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > Hello sir, > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context > of > the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Namaskar again! > > > > Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > > > > TalkBack 12.1: > > • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > > • Window navigation > > > > It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for > unlabeled > > images" is OCR feature. > > > > But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > > > > You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there > having > > various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag > behind. > > > > Vande Mataram > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > > Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > > > I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak > are > > able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know > > which phones have what additional features. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > On > > Behalf Of Sandesh > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > Namaskar Vikas and all! > > > > There seems confusion here. > > the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select > to > > Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both > > Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. > > > > In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of > > accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or > with > > a switch device. > > > > Android Accessibility Suite includes: > > • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, > > control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. > > • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. > > • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more > > switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** > > Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. > > • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with > > gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". > > > > I hope, confusion is clear now. > > > > Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using > > Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: > > > > ============================== > > Begins the portion of the Article > > > > > > https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en > > > > Android Accessibility Help > > > > Use Select to Speak > > > > Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. > > > > You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described > aloud > > with Select to Speak for Android. > > > > Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak > > 1.Open your device's Settings app . > > 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see > > Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of > > Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. > > > > 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. > > 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. > > > > Step 2: Use Select to Speak > > > > Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, > use > > your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if > > TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. > > 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. > > 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. > > 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use > > the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase > or > > decrease speed. > > > > Point your camera at pictures or text > > > > You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or > > described aloud with OCR. > > > > This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, > > French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, > Portuguese, > > Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. > > 1.Tap the Google Camera app . > > 2.Point the camera at an image or text. > > 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger > > swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility > > button Accessibility. > > 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to > > read. > > > > Read in the background > > > > You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the > > background. > > For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak > > reads. > > > > To let Select to Speak read in the background: > > 1.Open your device's Settings app . > > 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. > > 3.Tap Settings. > > 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. > > > > Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. > > > > End of Article > > ================= > > > > Regards > > > > Vande Mataram > > > > Sandesh > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > > > Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I > > have > > yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people > > have been using this feature. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > > Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > ability to perform OCR through built-in > > OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm > > not > > aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to > > this > > though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images > > containing > > text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may > > be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. > > > > Hope to learn more on this. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Satguru. > > > >> On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > >> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to > >> those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through > >> built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when > >> Samsung is going to provide the same feature. > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and > >> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for > >> years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on > >> almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. > >> > >> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then > >> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". > >> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap > >> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is > >> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen > >> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the > >> standard method though, but that's the personal choice > >> > >> > >> Enjoy! > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Satguru. > >> > >> -- > >> Disclaimer: > >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > >> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > >> veracity; > >> > >> 2. 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