Hello sir,

Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of the 
same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply:
“But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.”

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> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Namaskar again!
> 
> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1:
> 
> TalkBack 12.1:
> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text
> • Window navigation
> 
> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled 
> images" is OCR feature.
> 
> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.
> 
> You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having 
> various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind.
> 
> Vande Mataram
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> 
> 
> I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are 
> able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled 
> buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which 
> phones have what  additional features.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Sandesh
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> 
> Namaskar Vikas and all!
> 
> There seems confusion here.
> the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to 
> Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select 
> to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite.
> 
> In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of 
> accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a 
> switch device.
> 
> Android Accessibility Suite includes:
> • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, 
> control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more.
> • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud.
> • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches 
> or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches 
> to navigate with facial gestures.
> • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with 
> gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard".
> 
> I hope, confusion is clear now.
> 
> Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select 
> to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL:
> 
> ==============================
> Begins the portion of the Article
> 
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en
> 
> Android Accessibility Help
> 
> Use Select to Speak
> 
> Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up.
> 
> You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud 
> with Select to Speak for Android.
> 
> Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak
> 1.Open your device's Settings app .
> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select 
> to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android 
> Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again.
> 
> 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut.
> 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut.
> 
> Step 2: Use Select to Speak
> 
> Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use 
> your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack 
> is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility.
> 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image.
> 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen.
> 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the 
> buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or 
> decrease speed.
> 
> Point your camera at pictures or text
> 
> You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described 
> aloud with OCR.
> 
> This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, 
> French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, 
> Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish.
> 1.Tap the Google Camera app .
> 2.Point the camera at an image or text.
> 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe 
> up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button 
> Accessibility.
> 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read.
> 
> Read in the background
> 
> You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background.
> For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads.
> 
> To let Select to Speak read in the background:
> 1.Open your device's Settings app .
> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak.
> 3.Tap Settings.
> 4.At the top, turn on Read in background.
> 
> Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser.
> 
> End of Article
> =================
> 
> Regards
> 
> Vande Mataram
> 
> Sandesh
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> 
> 
> Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have
> yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people
> have been using this feature.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> 
> ability to perform OCR through built-in
> OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not
> aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this
> though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing
> text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may
> be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text.
> 
> Hope to learn more on this.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Satguru.
> 
>> On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote:
>> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to
>> those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through
>> built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when
>> Samsung is going to provide the same feature.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and
>> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for
>> years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on
>> almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB.
>> 
>> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then
>> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference".
>> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap
>> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is
>> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen
>> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the
>> standard method though, but that's the personal choice
>> 
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Satguru.
>> 
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