On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh <sandeshnaray...@gmail.com> wrote:
Namaskar again!
Google says this much about Talkback 12.1:
TalkBack 12.1:
• Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text
• Window navigation
It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled
images" is OCR feature.
But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.
You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having
various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind.
Vande Mataram
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able
to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons.
Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have
what additional features.
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On Behalf
Of Sandesh
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaskar Vikas and all!
There seems confusion here.
the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to
Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to
Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite.
In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of
accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch
device.
Android Accessibility Suite includes:
• Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control
volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more.
• Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud.
• Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches
or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to
navigate with facial gestures.
• TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures,
and type with the on-screen braille keyboard".
I hope, confusion is clear now.
Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select
to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL:
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Begins the portion of the Article
https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en
Android Accessibility Help
Use Select to Speak
Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up.
You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with
Select to Speak for Android.
Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak
1.Open your device's Settings app .
2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select
to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android
Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again.
3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut.
4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut.
Step 2: Use Select to Speak
Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your
Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on),
or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility.
2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image.
3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen.
4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the
buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease
speed.
Point your camera at pictures or text
You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described
aloud with OCR.
This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French,
German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian,
Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish.
1.Tap the Google Camera app .
2.Point the camera at an image or text.
3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe
up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button
Accessibility.
4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read.
Read in the background
You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background.
For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads.
To let Select to Speak read in the background:
1.Open your device's Settings app .
2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak.
3.Tap Settings.
4.At the top, turn on Read in background.
Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser.
End of Article
=================
Regards
Vande Mataram
Sandesh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have
yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people
have been using this feature.
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On
Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
ability to perform OCR through built-in
OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not
aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this
though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing
text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may
be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text.
Hope to learn more on this.
Best,
Satguru.
On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote:
But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to
those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through
built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when
Samsung is going to provide the same feature.
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hi,
Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and
double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for
years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on
almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB.
Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then
right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference".
You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap
and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is
activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen
11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the
standard method though, but that's the personal choice
Enjoy!
Best,
Satguru.
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