Hi friends, I am looking for a new handset and would like to know the phones with multi finger gestures available under rs. 25000. Thanks, Rohith
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 10:29 AM Satguru Rathi <[email protected]> wrote: > CSR stands for Commentary Screen Reader. This is another alternative to > Talkback developed by some Chinese guys. What I know is that this is a > paid software and comes with many advanced features surpassing Talkback. > What holds me back though is its non-availability on playstore. > > Best, > > Satguru. > > On 18-11-2021 12:14 am, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA wrote: > > Hello sir, > > > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context > of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: > > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Namaskar again! > >> > >> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > >> > >> TalkBack 12.1: > >> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > >> • Window navigation > >> > >> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for > unlabeled images" is OCR feature. > >> > >> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > >> > >> You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there > having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag > behind. > >> > >> Vande Mataram > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > >> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> > >> I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak > are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know > which phones have what additional features. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Sandesh > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> Namaskar Vikas and all! > >> > >> There seems confusion here. > >> the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select > to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both > Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. > >> > >> In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of > accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with > a switch device. > >> > >> Android Accessibility Suite includes: > >> • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, > control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. > >> • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. > >> • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more > switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera > Switches to navigate with facial gestures. > >> • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with > gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". > >> > >> I hope, confusion is clear now. > >> > >> Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using > Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: > >> > >> ============================== > >> Begins the portion of the Article > >> > >> > >> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en > >> > >> Android Accessibility Help > >> > >> Use Select to Speak > >> > >> Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. > >> > >> You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described > aloud with Select to Speak for Android. > >> > >> Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak > >> 1.Open your device's Settings app . > >> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see > Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of > Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. > >> > >> 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. > >> 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. > >> > >> Step 2: Use Select to Speak > >> > >> Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, > use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if > TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. > >> 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. > >> 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. > >> 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use > the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or > decrease speed. > >> > >> Point your camera at pictures or text > >> > >> You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or > described aloud with OCR. > >> > >> This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, > French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, > Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. > >> 1.Tap the Google Camera app . > >> 2.Point the camera at an image or text. > >> 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger > swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility > button Accessibility. > >> 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to > read. > >> > >> Read in the background > >> > >> You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the > background. > >> For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak > reads. > >> > >> To let Select to Speak read in the background: > >> 1.Open your device's Settings app . > >> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. > >> 3.Tap Settings. > >> 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. > >> > >> Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. > >> > >> End of Article > >> ================= > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Vande Mataram > >> > >> Sandesh > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM > >> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> > >> Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I > have > >> yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people > >> have been using this feature. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > On > >> Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> ability to perform OCR through built-in > >> OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm > not > >> aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to > this > >> though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images > containing > >> text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then > may > >> be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. > >> > >> Hope to learn more on this. > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Satguru. > >> > >>> On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > >>> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to > >>> those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through > >>> built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when > >>> Samsung is going to provide the same feature. > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and > >>> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for > >>> years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on > >>> almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. > >>> > >>> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then > >>> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". > >>> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap > >>> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is > >>> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen > >>> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the > >>> standard method though, but that's the personal choice > >>> > >>> > >>> Enjoy! > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Satguru. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Disclaimer: > >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > >>> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > >>> veracity; > >>> > >>> 2. 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